Aren’t the radios inanimate objects? Therefore it must be the operators that are accountable.
> On Jun 14, 2021, at 12:49, David Gilbert <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I'm not ignoring that at all, and I don't know what in my post makes you > think I am. I've been in lots of contests where the operator is either > unwittingly or intentionally putting trash on the band (there are hams on the > Contesting reflector who have publicly admitted intentionally creating clicks > to give themselves more elbow room), but it doesn't change the fact that > there are also some pretty poor transmitters out there that were purchased by > people who either didn't know it or didn't care. > > Dave AB7E > > > > On 6/14/2021 8:46 AM, Hal Massey wrote: >> You may be ignoring the fact that there are far more bad operators than bad >> radios... >> >>> On Jun 13, 2021, at 14:26, David Gilbert <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> I think you're ignoring that what might not be "bad" for the user could >>> still be bad for everyone else. >>> >>> In my opinion, poorly designed radios shouldn't be supported by the user >>> base, period ... and that includes the people who make recommendations. >>> >>> Dave AB7E >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6/13/2021 12:10 PM, Geoffrey Feldman wrote: >>>> Having worked retailing amateur radios, people often ask which is best. >>>> Also often they are absolutely convinced they know the answer because their >>>> Elmer said so. When I review what someone actually wants to do with the >>>> hobby and get a sense of their budget, I can advise them. A new Ham often >>>> hasn't a clear idea what they want to do. Knowing most of what is >>>> available, there are no truly "bad radios" that would be unsuited for >>>> anyone >>>> at all. Not everyone can afford "the best". Not everyone can use the >>>> best. >>>> New operators may not even be able to manage a ton of fancier features. New >>>> Hams may not know there is more to the hobby than whatever their Elmer has >>>> locked on to (20+ years ago). Life in an HOA or a city with much RFI >>>> directs from most expensive and top of the line towards something portable. >>>> The visibility provided by a Pan Adapter function is especially important. >>>> Personally I have a KX3, PX3, KXPA100. I also own an IC 7300. My >>>> recommendations at work would tend to what I can sell of course. If >>>> someone >>>> knows what they want, they buy it. I find too that upselling the radio is >>>> not productive either. Once someone has a radio they will need antennas, >>>> feed lines, maybe a tuner, wire, rope, books, power poles, antenna analyzer >>>> - all that stuff is the really great stuff J Also, if someone gets a lot >>>> of >>>> books, they will learn other aspects of the hobby and get another radio >>>> and >>>> the cycle repeats. >>>> >>>> >>>> Geoff >>>> >>>> W1GCF >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm <http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> >>>> Post: mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net <http://www.qsl.net/> >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> <http://www.qsl.net/donate.html> >>>> Message delivered to [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm <http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> >>> Post: mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net <http://www.qsl.net/> >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> <http://www.qsl.net/donate.html> >>> Message delivered to [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [email protected]
