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David R. Hourdequin, PE Specialty Heavy Timber Engineer Hayesville, NC 28904 828-421-6216 > On Aug 16, 2021, at 19:33, [email protected] wrote: > > Send Elecraft mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Elecraft digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. K2/100 RF gain knob inoperable (Mike Seiffert) > 2. Re: Any update on production of K3 ugprade parts > production/delivery? (Mark Musick) > 3. Re: K2/100 RF gain knob inoperable (Don Wilhelm) > 4. Re: K2/100 RF gain knob inoperable (jerry) > 5. Re: Any update on production of K3 ugprade parts > production/delivery? ([email protected]) > 6. Re: T1 Tuner Question ? (Paul Ecker) > 7. Re: K2 Power Level (Don Wilhelm) > 8. Re: T1 Tuner Question ? (Bill Frantz) > 9. K4 delivery status (Fred Jensen) > 10. Re: K4 delivery status (Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP) > 11. Re: K4 delivery status (Julia Tuttle) > 12. Re: K2 Power Level (Lyn Norstad) > 13. Re: K4 delivery status (Lyn Norstad) > 14. Re: K2 Power Level (Louandzip) > 15. Re: K4 delivery status (Wes) > 16. Re: K4 delivery status (Fred Jensen) > 17. K4 (Ken Roberson) > 18. Re: K4 (Julia Tuttle) > 19. Re: K4 (Lou Mecseri) > 20. Re: K4 (Stephen Black) > 21. Re: K4 (Kyle Chavis) > 22. Re: K4 delivery status (David Gilbert) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 07:27:34 -0700 > From: Mike Seiffert <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Elecraft] K2/100 RF gain knob inoperable > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi Folks, > I have an Elecraft K2/100 (S/N 01136) given to me by father (SK) some years > ago. I am finally finding some time again for ham radio and would like to get > this rig up and working well. It has the A to B mods applied, and includes > the options for SSB, DSP, 160/Rx ant, etc. I have applied the BFO and PLL > upgrades. > > My current problem is that the RF gain knob doesn?t seem to do anything. I > was expecting to hear some difference in the level of received signals and to > see the S-meter go to the right as I turn the knob fully CCW. Turning this > knob seems to have no affect on anything. > > Any help would be appreciated! I mention the following details in case they > are relevant: my father was mostly interested in 160m cw, so I?m not sure if > other aspects of the radio received attention when he built it. The AF gain > knob is scratchy - I?ve read about the mod that addresses this, but haven?t > yet applied it. The AGC needs adjustment - I can tell the difference in > volume AGC On vs off with no antenna connected. I don?t know that any of > these are related to the RF gain. > > Before I open things up to measure and replace the RF gain pot, are there > other things I should check? A quick check of the email reflector archive > didn?t turn up anything obvious to me. > > 73, > Mike AE6NH > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:46:34 +0000 > From: Mark Musick <[email protected]> > To: Henk PA5KT <[email protected]>, Elecraft Mail List > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Any update on production of K3 ugprade parts > production/delivery? > Message-ID: > > <ch2pr19mb37996d079298efd0fca013b7c3...@ch2pr19mb3799.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Apparently my reply to WB0GAZ didn't go through to the whole group. Here is > my reply to him. > > They announced a few weeks ago that they were closing the order list and > there would be no more production runs for K3 options. > They indicated at that time it would be about 12 weeks before we could expect > delivery. > It isn't even close to 12 weeks. What more of an update are you looking for? > I finalized my order and gave them half deposit. > > 73, > Mark, WB9CIF > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On > Behalf Of Henk PA5KT via Elecraft > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 14:07 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Any update on production of K3 ugprade parts > production/delivery? > > And what was the answer? > > Op 16-8-2021 om 15:54 schreef wb0gaz via Elecraft: >> >> My question has been answered - thanks! >> >> On Monday, August 16, 2021, 07:08:19 AM MDT, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Has Elecraft provided any update/status on their processing of these >> orders? >> >> Thanks! >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailma >> n.qth.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Felecraft&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca21ed5 >> 066a8345b3450408d960bf6672%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% >> 7C637647197438064898%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQI >> joiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=26OzI%2Bjgx >> 5nc5xAVYM7zy%2Fxu7n87eCVDz6LST7nFU0Y%3D&reserved=0 >> Help: >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailma >> n.qth.net%2Fmmfaq.htm&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca21ed5066a8345b3450408d960 >> bf6672%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637647197438074853 >> %7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6I >> k1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=F6OdtFYCtXkwqVNJo85alKfibONFqml >> Cdrc1FdR8uko%3D&reserved=0 >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qs >> l.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca21ed5066a8345b3450408d960bf6672%7C84df >> 9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637647197438074853%7CUnknown%7C >> TWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVC >> I6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=POqvG2%2Bsgn7wZOVOgoW9%2BpdUqYvdrM3uFPBiotey >> kzY%3D&reserved=0 Please help support this email list: >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qs >> l.net%2Fdonate.html&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca21ed5066a8345b3450408d960bf >> 6672%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637647197438074853%7 >> CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1 >> haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=6rJ18%2FbyED4DSGfc%2BHRSmvvDDabH7 >> 760mFGc5IIO%2Bb4%3D&reserved=0 >> Message delivered to [email protected] > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman.qth.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Felecraft&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca21ed5066a8345b3450408d960bf6672%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637647197438074853%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=d6arL4hKmpjDOcVLnenHc%2FgNChfR1z7SySd%2BIQyWVJk%3D&reserved=0 > Help: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman.qth.net%2Fmmfaq.htm&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca21ed5066a8345b3450408d960bf6672%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637647197438074853%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=F6OdtFYCtXkwqVNJo85alKfibONFqmlCdrc1FdR8uko%3D&reserved=0 > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qsl.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca21ed5066a8345b3450408d960bf6672%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637647197438074853%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=POqvG2%2Bsgn7wZOVOgoW9%2BpdUqYvdrM3uFPBioteykzY%3D&reserved=0 > Please help support this email list: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qsl.net%2Fdonate.html&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca21ed5066a8345b3450408d960bf6672%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637647197438074853%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=6rJ18%2FbyED4DSGfc%2BHRSmvvDDabH7760mFGc5IIO%2Bb4%3D&reserved=0 > Message delivered to [email protected] > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 11:59:31 -0400 > From: Don Wilhelm <[email protected]> > To: Mike Seiffert <[email protected]>, > [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2/100 RF gain knob inoperable > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Mike, > > First set the AGC Threshold voltage, and then check the operation of the > RF Gain to see if you can get the CAL S LO and CAL S HI settings to fall > in line. > It is not likely that replacing the pot will fix it. > > For a scratchy AF Gain control, replace the control, as well as doing > the Alternate AF Gain Wiring Modification.? You can download the > instructions from the Elecraft website. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 8/16/2021 10:27 AM, Mike Seiffert wrote: >> Hi Folks, >> I have an Elecraft K2/100 (S/N 01136) given to me by father (SK) some years >> ago. I am finally finding some time again for ham radio and would like to >> get this rig up and working well. It has the A to B mods applied, and >> includes the options for SSB, DSP, 160/Rx ant, etc. I have applied the BFO >> and PLL upgrades. >> >> My current problem is that the RF gain knob doesn?t seem to do anything. I >> was expecting to hear some difference in the level of received signals and >> to see the S-meter go to the right as I turn the knob fully CCW. Turning >> this knob seems to have no affect on anything. >> >> Any help would be appreciated! I mention the following details in case they >> are relevant: my father was mostly interested in 160m cw, so I?m not sure if >> other aspects of the radio received attention when he built it. The AF gain >> knob is scratchy - I?ve read about the mod that addresses this, but haven?t >> yet applied it. The AGC needs adjustment - I can tell the difference in >> volume AGC On vs off with no antenna connected. I don?t know that any of >> these are related to the RF gain. >> >> Before I open things up to measure and replace the RF gain pot, are there >> other things I should check? A quick check of the email reflector archive >> didn?t turn up anything obvious to me. >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 09:09:57 -0700 > From: jerry <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2/100 RF gain knob inoperable > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > All, > > The AF gain pot on my K2/10 was quite scratchy when I got it. A few > days > of ham activity, plus some whacking it back & forth, cured it. No more > scratches. Worth trying. > > - Jerry KF6VB > > >> On 2021-08-16 08:59, Don Wilhelm wrote: >> Mike, >> >> First set the AGC Threshold voltage, and then check the operation of >> the RF Gain to see if you can get the CAL S LO and CAL S HI settings >> to fall in line. >> It is not likely that replacing the pot will fix it. >> >> For a scratchy AF Gain control, replace the control, as well as doing >> the Alternate AF Gain Wiring Modification.? You can download the >> instructions from the Elecraft website. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> >>> On 8/16/2021 10:27 AM, Mike Seiffert wrote: >>> Hi Folks, >>> I have an Elecraft K2/100 (S/N 01136) given to me by father (SK) some >>> years ago. I am finally finding some time again for ham radio and >>> would like to get this rig up and working well. It has the A to B >>> mods applied, and includes the options for SSB, DSP, 160/Rx ant, etc. >>> I have applied the BFO and PLL upgrades. >>> >>> My current problem is that the RF gain knob doesn?t seem to do >>> anything. I was expecting to hear some difference in the level of >>> received signals and to see the S-meter go to the right as I turn the >>> knob fully CCW. Turning this knob seems to have no affect on anything. >>> >>> Any help would be appreciated! I mention the following details in >>> case they are relevant: my father was mostly interested in 160m cw, so >>> I?m not sure if other aspects of the radio received attention when he >>> built it. The AF gain knob is scratchy - I?ve read about the mod that >>> addresses this, but haven?t yet applied it. The AGC needs adjustment - >>> I can tell the difference in volume AGC On vs off with no antenna >>> connected. I don?t know that any of these are related to the RF gain. >>> >>> Before I open things up to measure and replace the RF gain pot, are >>> there other things I should check? A quick check of the email >>> reflector archive didn?t turn up anything obvious to me. >>> >>> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 17:10:33 +0000 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Any update on production of K3 ugprade parts > production/delivery? > Message-ID: > > <byapr20mb2790b7340a78c0c613d9a335ec...@byapr20mb2790.namprd20.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >> From Elecraft Sales on Wednesday July 28th: > > "We are still hopeful we'll be able to offer the sub rx but we have no ETA > for that at this time. > > The rest of the options can no longer be ordered because we'll have final > numbers tallied in the next couple of days - that's why the ordering webpage > was > shut down. The vendor is telling us 10-12 weeks (approx) from the date we > order boards + another 2-3 weeks for testing, bagging, tagging, etc once the > boards arrive here." > > > ________________________________ > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on > behalf of Henk PA5KT via Elecraft <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 7:07 AM > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Any update on production of K3 ugprade parts > production/delivery? > > And what was the answer? > > Op 16-8-2021 om 15:54 schreef wb0gaz via Elecraft: >> >> My question has been answered - thanks! >> >> On Monday, August 16, 2021, 07:08:19 AM MDT, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Has Elecraft provided any update/status on their processing of these >> orders? >> >> Thanks! >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [email protected] > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:15:57 -0400 > From: Paul Ecker <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] T1 Tuner Question ? > Message-ID: > <cajdgapowjzh72bzyhhe2k0hs1goe4u0hzj8zbgt3yltjp-n...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Thanks to all that responded to my T1 Tuner question. Turns out the one I > was asking about, that I bought thru QRZ Swapmeet would not tune, but the > seller immediately refunded my money via PayPal. The second offer of a T1 > also via QRZ turned out to be a scam. So enough, just ordered a brand new > T1 in kit form. If it doesn't work, we'll know why. > > 73 Paul w2eck > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:55:13 -0400 > From: Don Wilhelm <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 Power Level > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > All, > > I was reminded that I should have added that CW and SSB are low duty > cycle modes while FT8 and several other data modes are high duty cycle > and will produce more heat. > > The 'finger test' I mentioned is suitable for any mode. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Aaron, > > I cannot give you a specific answer, but go by the heat. > I would suggest you first try 5 watts, and operate at that level for a > while (I suggest 10 minutes). > Then check the heatsink temperature - if you can hold your fingers on it > for longer than 5 minutes, then all is well. > Increase the power by about 3 watts and try again. > When the heat gets too much to comfortably hold your fingers on the > heatsink (next to the PA transistors), then you have exceeded the > maximum power which you should use for transmit. > > The generalized answer is that you should consider those modes as > continuous duty and use 1/2 the normal full power output, but I suggest > doing the test I referred to as a specific power limit for your > particular K2. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 8/13/2021 3:38 PM, Aaron K5ATG wrote: >> What is the recommended highest power level for a QRP Elecraft K2 to >> operate on digital modes like FT8, JT65 etc, without blowing the PA's? >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 16:04:33 -0400 > From: Bill Frantz <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] T1 Tuner Question ? > Message-ID: > <r480Ps-10146i-A9B3233DDAF94F16A955622743AF884B@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > >> On 8/16/21 at 2:15 PM, [email protected] (Paul Ecker) wrote: >> >> Thanks to all that responded to my T1 Tuner question. Turns out the one I >> was asking about, that I bought thru QRZ Swapmeet would not tune, but the >> seller immediately refunded my money via PayPal. The second offer of a T1 >> also via QRZ turned out to be a scam. So enough, just ordered a brand new >> T1 in kit form. If it doesn't work, we'll know why. > > It's a fun build, and a rugged little box to have when you finish. > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Frantz | Ham radio contesting is a | Periwinkle > (408)348-7900 | contact sport. | 150 Rivermead Rd #235 > www.pwpconsult.com | --Ken Widelitz K6LA/VY2TT | Peterborough, NH 03458 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 13:20:17 -0700 > From: Fred Jensen <[email protected]> > To: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]> > Subject: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > I haven't seen much K4 chatter here lately, I wonder how things are > going in the shipping/delivery business. Were I to order one today, when > could I expect to start tracking a package? > > 73, > > Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW > Sparks NV DM09dn > Washoe County > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 23:28:49 +0300 > From: Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > I'd like to know too. I keep flipping back and forth between "I'm too > old to buy another radio" and "but the K4 is so cool." > > 73, > Victor, 4X6GP > Rehovot, Israel > CWops #5 > Formerly K2VCO > https://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ >> On 16/08/2021 23:20, Fred Jensen wrote: >> I haven't seen much K4 chatter here lately, I wonder how things are >> going in the shipping/delivery business. Were I to order one today, when >> could I expect to start tracking a package? >> >> 73, >> >> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW >> Sparks NV DM09dn >> Washoe County >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 16:31:18 -0400 > From: Julia Tuttle <[email protected]> > To: Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP <[email protected]> > Cc: Elecraft <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status > Message-ID: > <caevebrn-yn0wenmuzdsfbef8dkpcmkrw7niipbu4o2w_4yz...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > You're never too old to buy another radio! > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2021, 16:30 Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I'd like to know too. I keep flipping back and forth between "I'm too >> old to buy another radio" and "but the K4 is so cool." >> >> 73, >> Victor, 4X6GP >> Rehovot, Israel >> CWops #5 >> Formerly K2VCO >> https://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ >>> On 16/08/2021 23:20, Fred Jensen wrote: >>> I haven't seen much K4 chatter here lately, I wonder how things are >>> going in the shipping/delivery business. Were I to order one today, when >>> could I expect to start tracking a package? >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW >>> Sparks NV DM09dn >>> Washoe County >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[email protected] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to [email protected] >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 15:33:36 -0500 > From: "Lyn Norstad" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 Power Level > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Interesting point, Don. > > I never thought of the "finger test" for that purpose, but the "Threshold of > Pain" is normally considered to be 42C (or 107F). My KPA500 reaches that > temp after about 8 seconds of 40 meter carrier with a drive level of 18 > watts and an output level of about 350 watts. (Normal 'power off temp' runs > about 37C). > > The average person can touch a 140F surface for 5 seconds without sustaining > irreversible burn damage. > > Such a simple, basic thing to know ... but who does? > > 73 > Lyn, W0LEN > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 1:55 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 Power Level > > All, > > I was reminded that I should have added that CW and SSB are low duty > cycle modes while FT8 and several other data modes are high duty cycle > and will produce more heat. > > The 'finger test' I mentioned is suitable for any mode. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------ > Aaron, > > I cannot give you a specific answer, but go by the heat. > I would suggest you first try 5 watts, and operate at that level for a > while (I suggest 10 minutes). > Then check the heatsink temperature - if you can hold your fingers on it > for longer than 5 minutes, then all is well. > Increase the power by about 3 watts and try again. > When the heat gets too much to comfortably hold your fingers on the > heatsink (next to the PA transistors), then you have exceeded the > maximum power which you should use for transmit. > > The generalized answer is that you should consider those modes as > continuous duty and use 1/2 the normal full power output, but I suggest > doing the test I referred to as a specific power limit for your > particular K2. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 8/13/2021 3:38 PM, Aaron K5ATG wrote: >> What is the recommended highest power level for a QRP Elecraft K2 to >> operate on digital modes like FT8, JT65 etc, without blowing the PA's? >> > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [email protected] > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 15:39:09 -0500 > From: "Lyn Norstad" <[email protected]> > To: "'Fred Jensen'" <[email protected]>, "'Elecraft Reflector'" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Fred - > > According to QRZ, you are 3 years older than I am ... and I am one year > beyond the current "Average Life Expectancy" in the USA (post-Covid) for > men. Not meaning to imply anything by that, but for me ... I'd wait until > they have inventory. > > 73 > Lyn, W?LEN > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 3:20 PM > To: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status > > I haven't seen much K4 chatter here lately, I wonder how things are > going in the shipping/delivery business. Were I to order one today, when > could I expect to start tracking a package? > > 73, > > Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW > Sparks NV DM09dn > Washoe County > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [email protected] > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 21:08:31 +0000 (UTC) > From: Louandzip <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 Power Level > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Of course what the material is matters a lot.? A 60C piece of wood or plastic > (not good heatsink materials) will feel warm whereas a hunk of aluminum will > feel quite hot due to its much higher thermal conductivity and heat capacity. > > On Monday, August 16, 2021, 02:40:37 PM MDT, Lyn Norstad <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Interesting point, Don. > > I never thought of the "finger test" for that purpose, but the "Threshold of > Pain" is normally considered to be 42C (or 107F).? My KPA500 reaches that > temp after about 8 seconds of 40 meter carrier with a drive level of 18 > watts and an output level of about 350 watts. (Normal 'power off temp' runs > about 37C). > > The average person can touch a 140F surface for 5 seconds without sustaining > irreversible burn damage. > > Such a simple, basic thing to know ... but who does? > > 73 > Lyn, W0LEN > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 1:55 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 Power Level > > All, > > I was reminded that I should have added that CW and SSB are low duty > cycle modes while FT8 and several other data modes are high duty cycle > and will produce more heat. > > The 'finger test' I mentioned is suitable for any mode. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------ > Aaron, > > I cannot give you a specific answer, but go by the heat. > I would suggest you first try 5 watts, and operate at that level for a > while (I suggest 10 minutes). > Then check the heatsink temperature - if you can hold your fingers on it > for longer than 5 minutes, then all is well. > Increase the power by about 3 watts and try again. > When the heat gets too much to comfortably hold your fingers on the > heatsink (next to the PA transistors), then you have exceeded the > maximum power which you should use for transmit. > > The generalized answer is that you should consider those modes as > continuous duty and use 1/2 the normal full power output, but I suggest > doing the test I referred to as a specific power limit for your > particular K2. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 8/13/2021 3:38 PM, Aaron K5ATG wrote: >> What is the recommended highest power level for a QRP Elecraft K2 to >> operate on digital modes like FT8, JT65 etc, without blowing the PA's? >> > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [email protected] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [email protected] > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:21:19 -0700 > From: Wes <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > And then wait another year until the bugs are fixed. > > Wes? N7WS > >> On 8/16/2021 1:39 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: >> Fred - >> I'd wait until they have inventory. >> >> 73 >> Lyn, W?LEN >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:22:27 -0700 > From: Fred Jensen <[email protected]> > To: [email protected], 'Elecraft Reflector' <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Well Lyn, I survived nearly four years of war during my bulletproof and > immortal period, so I've assumed it will never be too late to buy a new > radio. ?? My K3 [#642] is getting somewhat long in the tooth but it > still functions great and I really enjoy it.? I've also had enough time > to learn how to use most of the knobs and switches.? The two primary > questions lurking in my head right now: > > 1.? I run W7RN remotely with the RemoteRig RRC-1258 setup and my K3.? If > I replace my K3 with a K4, and Tom does _not_ do likewise at RN, will my > remote setup still work? > > 2.? I have monochrome vision.? I run my P3 waterfall in monochrome mode > [Thank you Alan!] since the colored mode makes no sense to me.? Does the > K4 offer that same monochrome WF option? > > But, a new radio would be cool! > > 73, > > Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW > Sparks NV DM09dn > Washoe County > >> On 8/16/2021 1:39 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: >> Fred - >> >> According to QRZ, you are 3 years older than I am ... and I am one year >> beyond the current "Average Life Expectancy" in the USA (post-Covid) for >> men. Not meaning to imply anything by that, but for me ... I'd wait until >> they have inventory. >> >> 73 >> Lyn, W?LEN >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen >> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 3:20 PM >> To: Elecraft Reflector >> Subject: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status >> >> I haven't seen much K4 chatter here lately, I wonder how things are >> going in the shipping/delivery business. Were I to order one today, when >> could I expect to start tracking a package? >> >> 73, >> >> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW >> Sparks NV DM09dn >> Washoe County >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 21:39:30 +0000 (UTC) > From: Ken Roberson <[email protected]> > To: Elecraft Elecraft <[email protected]> > Subject: [Elecraft] K4 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > I have 4 kids, I could give each another $1500.00 when I dieor I could buy > > A new K4 , Let?s see which should I do? > Ken K5DNL > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 18 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 17:56:33 -0400 > From: Julia Tuttle <[email protected]> > To: Ken Roberson <[email protected]> > Cc: Elecraft Elecraft <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 > Message-ID: > <caevebrmuzvy0fsyxqo4bgvkkom3mfs8k77n_z51xgeshw10...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > ...well, that depends on your and their financial situations, plus the > expected resale value of a K4 after you've passed and/or whether any of > them would use it. > > You could also sell all your current radio gear and invest that money for > them. > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2021, 17:40 Ken Roberson via Elecraft < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> I have 4 kids, I could give each another $1500.00 when I dieor I could buy >> >> A new K4 , Let?s see which should I do? >> Ken K5DNL >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 19 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 22:03:17 +0000 > From: Lou Mecseri <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > I would do the radio, You earned it, you should enjoy it. :) > > 73, Lou KE1F > >> On 8/16/2021 21:39, Ken Roberson via Elecraft wrote: >> I have 4 kids, I could give each another $1500.00 when I dieor I could buy >> >> A new K4 , Let?s see which should I do? >> Ken K5DNL >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 20 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 19:05:16 -0400 > From: Stephen Black <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Can't take it with you and for all the crap we all faced in life we may > as well enjoy our later years. Steve kb1chu > >> On 8/16/2021 5:39 PM, Ken Roberson via Elecraft wrote: >> I have 4 kids, I could give each another $1500.00 when I dieor I could buy >> >> A new K4 , Let?s see which should I do? >> Ken K5DNL >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 21 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 19:13:27 -0400 > From: Kyle Chavis <[email protected]> > To: Stephen Black <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 > Message-ID: > <CAC7wnKEiaSxKR-pNpqVwj448X=mPZKGwJGSX==+pp4cgnu0...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > If you think about it, they might take the money and buy a Baofeng!! > OMG :) > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 7:06 PM Stephen Black via Elecraft < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Can't take it with you and for all the crap we all faced in life we may >> as well enjoy our later years. Steve kb1chu >> >>> On 8/16/2021 5:39 PM, Ken Roberson via Elecraft wrote: >>> I have 4 kids, I could give each another $1500.00 when I dieor I could >> buy >>> >>> A new K4 , Let?s see which should I do? >>> Ken K5DNL >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[email protected] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to [email protected] >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 22 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 16:28:05 -0700 > From: David Gilbert <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > > Apparently not.? I recently asked on this list if new K4 users could > tell us how well the K4 worked for remote operations.? The only replies > I got said that Elecraft had not yet written a release version of the > software for remote operation of the K4, and as best they could tell > from the responses they had gotten from Elecraft there was no timetable > for doing so.? Nobody from Elecraft bothered to answer my query, so they > are probably correct. > > 73, > Dave?? AB7E > > > > > >> On 8/16/2021 2:22 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: >> >> 1.? I run W7RN remotely with the RemoteRig RRC-1258 setup and my K3.? >> If I replace my K3 with a K4, and Tom does _not_ do likewise at RN, >> will my remote setup still work? >> > >> 73, >> >> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW >> Sparks NV DM09dn >> Washoe County > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [email protected] > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > You must be a subscriber to post. > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > End of Elecraft Digest, Vol 208, Issue 8 > **************************************** ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [email protected]
