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> On Aug 16, 2021, at 20:25, D Remy <d...@dremy.com> wrote: > > I would like to opt out of this mailing list. How do I do that? > > David, NS4V > > David R. Hourdequin, PE > Specialty Heavy Timber Engineer > Hayesville, NC 28904 > 828-421-6216 > >> On Aug 16, 2021, at 19:33, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: >> >> Send Elecraft mailing list submissions to >> elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> elecraft-ow...@mailman.qth.net >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Elecraft digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. K2/100 RF gain knob inoperable (Mike Seiffert) >> 2. Re: Any update on production of K3 ugprade parts >> production/delivery? (Mark Musick) >> 3. Re: K2/100 RF gain knob inoperable (Don Wilhelm) >> 4. Re: K2/100 RF gain knob inoperable (jerry) >> 5. Re: Any update on production of K3 ugprade parts >> production/delivery? (n6...@outlook.com) >> 6. Re: T1 Tuner Question ? (Paul Ecker) >> 7. Re: K2 Power Level (Don Wilhelm) >> 8. Re: T1 Tuner Question ? (Bill Frantz) >> 9. K4 delivery status (Fred Jensen) >> 10. Re: K4 delivery status (Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP) >> 11. Re: K4 delivery status (Julia Tuttle) >> 12. Re: K2 Power Level (Lyn Norstad) >> 13. Re: K4 delivery status (Lyn Norstad) >> 14. Re: K2 Power Level (Louandzip) >> 15. Re: K4 delivery status (Wes) >> 16. Re: K4 delivery status (Fred Jensen) >> 17. K4 (Ken Roberson) >> 18. Re: K4 (Julia Tuttle) >> 19. Re: K4 (Lou Mecseri) >> 20. Re: K4 (Stephen Black) >> 21. Re: K4 (Kyle Chavis) >> 22. Re: K4 delivery status (David Gilbert) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 07:27:34 -0700 >> From: Mike Seiffert <mike.seiff...@earthlink.net> >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: [Elecraft] K2/100 RF gain knob inoperable >> Message-ID: <7fc3958d-224a-4833-a2fd-9e3ea824c...@earthlink.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> Hi Folks, >> I have an Elecraft K2/100 (S/N 01136) given to me by father (SK) some years >> ago. I am finally finding some time again for ham radio and would like to >> get this rig up and working well. It has the A to B mods applied, and >> includes the options for SSB, DSP, 160/Rx ant, etc. I have applied the BFO >> and PLL upgrades. >> >> My current problem is that the RF gain knob doesn?t seem to do anything. I >> was expecting to hear some difference in the level of received signals and >> to see the S-meter go to the right as I turn the knob fully CCW. Turning >> this knob seems to have no affect on anything. >> >> Any help would be appreciated! I mention the following details in case they >> are relevant: my father was mostly interested in 160m cw, so I?m not sure if >> other aspects of the radio received attention when he built it. The AF gain >> knob is scratchy - I?ve read about the mod that addresses this, but haven?t >> yet applied it. The AGC needs adjustment - I can tell the difference in >> volume AGC On vs off with no antenna connected. I don?t know that any of >> these are related to the RF gain. >> >> Before I open things up to measure and replace the RF gain pot, are there >> other things I should check? A quick check of the email reflector archive >> didn?t turn up anything obvious to me. >> >> 73, >> Mike AE6NH >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:46:34 +0000 >> From: Mark Musick <markmus...@outlook.com> >> To: Henk PA5KT <pa...@remijn.net>, Elecraft Mail List >> <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Any update on production of K3 ugprade parts >> production/delivery? >> Message-ID: >> >> <ch2pr19mb37996d079298efd0fca013b7c3...@ch2pr19mb3799.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Apparently my reply to WB0GAZ didn't go through to the whole group. Here is >> my reply to him. >> >> They announced a few weeks ago that they were closing the order list and >> there would be no more production runs for K3 options. >> They indicated at that time it would be about 12 weeks before we could >> expect delivery. >> It isn't even close to 12 weeks. What more of an update are you looking for? >> I finalized my order and gave them half deposit. >> >> 73, >> Mark, WB9CIF >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> On >> Behalf Of Henk PA5KT via Elecraft >> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 14:07 >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Any update on production of K3 ugprade parts >> production/delivery? >> >> And what was the answer? >> >> Op 16-8-2021 om 15:54 schreef wb0gaz via Elecraft: >>> >>> My question has been answered - thanks! >>> >>>> On Monday, August 16, 2021, 07:08:19 AM MDT, <wb0...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> Has Elecraft provided any update/status on their processing of these >>> orders? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailma >>> n.qth.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Felecraft&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca21ed5 >>> 066a8345b3450408d960bf6672%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% >>> 7C637647197438064898%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQI >>> joiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=26OzI%2Bjgx >>> 5nc5xAVYM7zy%2Fxu7n87eCVDz6LST7nFU0Y%3D&reserved=0 >>> Help: >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailma >>> n.qth.net%2Fmmfaq.htm&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca21ed5066a8345b3450408d960 >>> bf6672%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637647197438074853 >>> %7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6I >>> k1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=F6OdtFYCtXkwqVNJo85alKfibONFqml >>> Cdrc1FdR8uko%3D&reserved=0 >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qs >>> l.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca21ed5066a8345b3450408d960bf6672%7C84df >>> 9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637647197438074853%7CUnknown%7C >>> TWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVC >>> I6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=POqvG2%2Bsgn7wZOVOgoW9%2BpdUqYvdrM3uFPBiotey >>> kzY%3D&reserved=0 Please help support this email list: >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qs >>> l.net%2Fdonate.html&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca21ed5066a8345b3450408d960bf >>> 6672%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637647197438074853%7 >>> CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1 >>> haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=6rJ18%2FbyED4DSGfc%2BHRSmvvDDabH7 >>> 760mFGc5IIO%2Bb4%3D&reserved=0 >>> Message delivered to pa...@remijn.net >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman.qth.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Felecraft&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca21ed5066a8345b3450408d960bf6672%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637647197438074853%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=d6arL4hKmpjDOcVLnenHc%2FgNChfR1z7SySd%2BIQyWVJk%3D&reserved=0 >> Help: >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman.qth.net%2Fmmfaq.htm&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca21ed5066a8345b3450408d960bf6672%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637647197438074853%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=F6OdtFYCtXkwqVNJo85alKfibONFqmlCdrc1FdR8uko%3D&reserved=0 >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qsl.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca21ed5066a8345b3450408d960bf6672%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637647197438074853%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=POqvG2%2Bsgn7wZOVOgoW9%2BpdUqYvdrM3uFPBioteykzY%3D&reserved=0 >> Please help support this email list: >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qsl.net%2Fdonate.html&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca21ed5066a8345b3450408d960bf6672%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637647197438074853%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=6rJ18%2FbyED4DSGfc%2BHRSmvvDDabH7760mFGc5IIO%2Bb4%3D&reserved=0 >> Message delivered to markmus...@outlook.com >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 11:59:31 -0400 >> From: Don Wilhelm <d...@w3fpr.com> >> To: Mike Seiffert <mike.seiff...@earthlink.net>, >> elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2/100 RF gain knob inoperable >> Message-ID: <311daf2f-7bc0-64b1-935f-2c4878e18...@w3fpr.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >> >> Mike, >> >> First set the AGC Threshold voltage, and then check the operation of the >> RF Gain to see if you can get the CAL S LO and CAL S HI settings to fall >> in line. >> It is not likely that replacing the pot will fix it. >> >> For a scratchy AF Gain control, replace the control, as well as doing >> the Alternate AF Gain Wiring Modification.? You can download the >> instructions from the Elecraft website. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> >>>> On 8/16/2021 10:27 AM, Mike Seiffert wrote: >>> Hi Folks, >>> I have an Elecraft K2/100 (S/N 01136) given to me by father (SK) some years >>> ago. I am finally finding some time again for ham radio and would like to >>> get this rig up and working well. It has the A to B mods applied, and >>> includes the options for SSB, DSP, 160/Rx ant, etc. I have applied the BFO >>> and PLL upgrades. >>> >>> My current problem is that the RF gain knob doesn?t seem to do anything. I >>> was expecting to hear some difference in the level of received signals and >>> to see the S-meter go to the right as I turn the knob fully CCW. Turning >>> this knob seems to have no affect on anything. >>> >>> Any help would be appreciated! I mention the following details in case >>> they are relevant: my father was mostly interested in 160m cw, so I?m not >>> sure if other aspects of the radio received attention when he built it. The >>> AF gain knob is scratchy - I?ve read about the mod that addresses this, but >>> haven?t yet applied it. The AGC needs adjustment - I can tell the >>> difference in volume AGC On vs off with no antenna connected. I don?t know >>> that any of these are related to the RF gain. >>> >>> Before I open things up to measure and replace the RF gain pot, are there >>> other things I should check? A quick check of the email reflector archive >>> didn?t turn up anything obvious to me. >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 09:09:57 -0700 >> From: jerry <je...@tr2.com> >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2/100 RF gain knob inoperable >> Message-ID: <9872e776a3cd769ccba1a15395b99...@tr2.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed >> >> All, >> >> The AF gain pot on my K2/10 was quite scratchy when I got it. A few >> days >> of ham activity, plus some whacking it back & forth, cured it. No more >> scratches. Worth trying. >> >> - Jerry KF6VB >> >> >>>> On 2021-08-16 08:59, Don Wilhelm wrote: >>> Mike, >>> >>> First set the AGC Threshold voltage, and then check the operation of >>> the RF Gain to see if you can get the CAL S LO and CAL S HI settings >>> to fall in line. >>> It is not likely that replacing the pot will fix it. >>> >>> For a scratchy AF Gain control, replace the control, as well as doing >>> the Alternate AF Gain Wiring Modification.? You can download the >>> instructions from the Elecraft website. >>> >>> 73, >>> Don W3FPR >>> >>>> On 8/16/2021 10:27 AM, Mike Seiffert wrote: >>>> Hi Folks, >>>> I have an Elecraft K2/100 (S/N 01136) given to me by father (SK) some >>>> years ago. I am finally finding some time again for ham radio and >>>> would like to get this rig up and working well. It has the A to B >>>> mods applied, and includes the options for SSB, DSP, 160/Rx ant, etc. >>>> I have applied the BFO and PLL upgrades. >>>> >>>> My current problem is that the RF gain knob doesn?t seem to do >>>> anything. I was expecting to hear some difference in the level of >>>> received signals and to see the S-meter go to the right as I turn the >>>> knob fully CCW. Turning this knob seems to have no affect on anything. >>>> >>>> Any help would be appreciated! I mention the following details in >>>> case they are relevant: my father was mostly interested in 160m cw, so >>>> I?m not sure if other aspects of the radio received attention when he >>>> built it. The AF gain knob is scratchy - I?ve read about the mod that >>>> addresses this, but haven?t yet applied it. The AGC needs adjustment - >>>> I can tell the difference in volume AGC On vs off with no antenna >>>> connected. I don?t know that any of these are related to the RF gain. >>>> >>>> Before I open things up to measure and replace the RF gain pot, are >>>> there other things I should check? A quick check of the email >>>> reflector archive didn?t turn up anything obvious to me. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to je...@tr2.com >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 17:10:33 +0000 >> From: "n6...@outlook.com" <n6...@outlook.com> >> To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Any update on production of K3 ugprade parts >> production/delivery? >> Message-ID: >> >> <byapr20mb2790b7340a78c0c613d9a335ec...@byapr20mb2790.namprd20.prod.outlook.com> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >>> From Elecraft Sales on Wednesday July 28th: >> >> "We are still hopeful we'll be able to offer the sub rx but we have no ETA >> for that at this time. >> >> The rest of the options can no longer be ordered because we'll have final >> numbers tallied in the next couple of days - that's why the ordering webpage >> was >> shut down. The vendor is telling us 10-12 weeks (approx) from the date we >> order boards + another 2-3 weeks for testing, bagging, tagging, etc once the >> boards arrive here." >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> on >> behalf of Henk PA5KT via Elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 7:07 AM >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Any update on production of K3 ugprade parts >> production/delivery? >> >> And what was the answer? >> >> Op 16-8-2021 om 15:54 schreef wb0gaz via Elecraft: >>> >>> My question has been answered - thanks! >>> >>>> On Monday, August 16, 2021, 07:08:19 AM MDT, <wb0...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> Has Elecraft provided any update/status on their processing of these >>> orders? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to pa...@remijn.net >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to n6...@outlook.com >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:15:57 -0400 >> From: Paul Ecker <ecke...@gmail.com> >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] T1 Tuner Question ? >> Message-ID: >> <cajdgapowjzh72bzyhhe2k0hs1goe4u0hzj8zbgt3yltjp-n...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> Thanks to all that responded to my T1 Tuner question. Turns out the one I >> was asking about, that I bought thru QRZ Swapmeet would not tune, but the >> seller immediately refunded my money via PayPal. The second offer of a T1 >> also via QRZ turned out to be a scam. So enough, just ordered a brand new >> T1 in kit form. If it doesn't work, we'll know why. >> >> 73 Paul w2eck >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:55:13 -0400 >> From: Don Wilhelm <d...@w3fpr.com> >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 Power Level >> Message-ID: <a3cbd01e-d32e-a40c-82be-0982c2015...@w3fpr.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >> >> All, >> >> I was reminded that I should have added that CW and SSB are low duty >> cycle modes while FT8 and several other data modes are high duty cycle >> and will produce more heat. >> >> The 'finger test' I mentioned is suitable for any mode. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Aaron, >> >> I cannot give you a specific answer, but go by the heat. >> I would suggest you first try 5 watts, and operate at that level for a >> while (I suggest 10 minutes). >> Then check the heatsink temperature - if you can hold your fingers on it >> for longer than 5 minutes, then all is well. >> Increase the power by about 3 watts and try again. >> When the heat gets too much to comfortably hold your fingers on the >> heatsink (next to the PA transistors), then you have exceeded the >> maximum power which you should use for transmit. >> >> The generalized answer is that you should consider those modes as >> continuous duty and use 1/2 the normal full power output, but I suggest >> doing the test I referred to as a specific power limit for your >> particular K2. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> >>>> On 8/13/2021 3:38 PM, Aaron K5ATG wrote: >>> What is the recommended highest power level for a QRP Elecraft K2 to >>> operate on digital modes like FT8, JT65 etc, without blowing the PA's? >>> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 8 >> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 16:04:33 -0400 >> From: Bill Frantz <fra...@pwpconsult.com> >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] T1 Tuner Question ? >> Message-ID: >> <r480Ps-10146i-A9B3233DDAF94F16A955622743AF884B@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >>>> On 8/16/21 at 2:15 PM, ecke...@gmail.com (Paul Ecker) wrote: >>> >>> Thanks to all that responded to my T1 Tuner question. Turns out the one I >>> was asking about, that I bought thru QRZ Swapmeet would not tune, but the >>> seller immediately refunded my money via PayPal. The second offer of a T1 >>> also via QRZ turned out to be a scam. So enough, just ordered a brand new >>> T1 in kit form. If it doesn't work, we'll know why. >> >> It's a fun build, and a rugged little box to have when you finish. >> >> 73 Bill AE6JV >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Bill Frantz | Ham radio contesting is a | Periwinkle >> (408)348-7900 | contact sport. | 150 Rivermead Rd #235 >> www.pwpconsult.com | --Ken Widelitz K6LA/VY2TT | Peterborough, NH 03458 >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 9 >> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 13:20:17 -0700 >> From: Fred Jensen <k6...@foothill.net> >> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >> Subject: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status >> Message-ID: <7195d9f4-7f77-543d-ed85-7061c270b...@foothill.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >> >> I haven't seen much K4 chatter here lately, I wonder how things are >> going in the shipping/delivery business. Were I to order one today, when >> could I expect to start tracking a package? >> >> 73, >> >> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW >> Sparks NV DM09dn >> Washoe County >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 10 >> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 23:28:49 +0300 >> From: Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP <k2vco....@gmail.com> >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status >> Message-ID: <84a1b61e-93d7-553d-ed6f-985b91dab...@gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >> >> I'd like to know too. I keep flipping back and forth between "I'm too >> old to buy another radio" and "but the K4 is so cool." >> >> 73, >> Victor, 4X6GP >> Rehovot, Israel >> CWops #5 >> Formerly K2VCO >> https://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ >>>> On 16/08/2021 23:20, Fred Jensen wrote: >>> I haven't seen much K4 chatter here lately, I wonder how things are >>> going in the shipping/delivery business. Were I to order one today, when >>> could I expect to start tracking a package? >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW >>> Sparks NV DM09dn >>> Washoe County >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to k2vco....@gmail.com >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 11 >> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 16:31:18 -0400 >> From: Julia Tuttle <ju...@juliatuttle.net> >> To: Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP <k2vco....@gmail.com> >> Cc: Elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status >> Message-ID: >> <caevebrn-yn0wenmuzdsfbef8dkpcmkrw7niipbu4o2w_4yz...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> You're never too old to buy another radio! >> >> On Mon, Aug 16, 2021, 16:30 Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP <k2vco....@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I'd like to know too. I keep flipping back and forth between "I'm too >>> old to buy another radio" and "but the K4 is so cool." >>> >>> 73, >>> Victor, 4X6GP >>> Rehovot, Israel >>> CWops #5 >>> Formerly K2VCO >>> https://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ >>>> On 16/08/2021 23:20, Fred Jensen wrote: >>>> I haven't seen much K4 chatter here lately, I wonder how things are >>>> going in the shipping/delivery business. Were I to order one today, when >>>> could I expect to start tracking a package? >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> >>>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW >>>> Sparks NV DM09dn >>>> Washoe County >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> Message delivered to k2vco....@gmail.com >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to ju...@juliatuttle.net >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 12 >> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 15:33:36 -0500 >> From: "Lyn Norstad" <l...@lnainc.com> >> To: <d...@w3fpr.com>, <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 Power Level >> Message-ID: <060701d792dd$fe69c010$fb3d4030$@LNAINC.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Interesting point, Don. >> >> I never thought of the "finger test" for that purpose, but the "Threshold of >> Pain" is normally considered to be 42C (or 107F). My KPA500 reaches that >> temp after about 8 seconds of 40 meter carrier with a drive level of 18 >> watts and an output level of about 350 watts. (Normal 'power off temp' runs >> about 37C). >> >> The average person can touch a 140F surface for 5 seconds without sustaining >> irreversible burn damage. >> >> Such a simple, basic thing to know ... but who does? >> >> 73 >> Lyn, W0LEN >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net >> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm >> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 1:55 PM >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 Power Level >> >> All, >> >> I was reminded that I should have added that CW and SSB are low duty >> cycle modes while FT8 and several other data modes are high duty cycle >> and will produce more heat. >> >> The 'finger test' I mentioned is suitable for any mode. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ------------------------------ >> Aaron, >> >> I cannot give you a specific answer, but go by the heat. >> I would suggest you first try 5 watts, and operate at that level for a >> while (I suggest 10 minutes). >> Then check the heatsink temperature - if you can hold your fingers on it >> for longer than 5 minutes, then all is well. >> Increase the power by about 3 watts and try again. >> When the heat gets too much to comfortably hold your fingers on the >> heatsink (next to the PA transistors), then you have exceeded the >> maximum power which you should use for transmit. >> >> The generalized answer is that you should consider those modes as >> continuous duty and use 1/2 the normal full power output, but I suggest >> doing the test I referred to as a specific power limit for your >> particular K2. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> >>>> On 8/13/2021 3:38 PM, Aaron K5ATG wrote: >>> What is the recommended highest power level for a QRP Elecraft K2 to >>> operate on digital modes like FT8, JT65 etc, without blowing the PA's? >>> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to l...@lnainc.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 13 >> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 15:39:09 -0500 >> From: "Lyn Norstad" <l...@lnainc.com> >> To: "'Fred Jensen'" <k6...@foothill.net>, "'Elecraft Reflector'" >> <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status >> Message-ID: <060801d792de$c5302220$4f906660$@LNAINC.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Fred - >> >> According to QRZ, you are 3 years older than I am ... and I am one year >> beyond the current "Average Life Expectancy" in the USA (post-Covid) for >> men. Not meaning to imply anything by that, but for me ... I'd wait until >> they have inventory. >> >> 73 >> Lyn, W?LEN >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net >> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen >> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 3:20 PM >> To: Elecraft Reflector >> Subject: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status >> >> I haven't seen much K4 chatter here lately, I wonder how things are >> going in the shipping/delivery business. Were I to order one today, when >> could I expect to start tracking a package? >> >> 73, >> >> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW >> Sparks NV DM09dn >> Washoe County >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to l...@lnainc.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 14 >> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 21:08:31 +0000 (UTC) >> From: Louandzip <louand...@yahoo.com> >> To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 Power Level >> Message-ID: <267391767.681933.1629148111...@mail.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> Of course what the material is matters a lot.? A 60C piece of wood or >> plastic (not good heatsink materials) will feel warm whereas a hunk of >> aluminum will feel quite hot due to its much higher thermal conductivity and >> heat capacity. >> >> On Monday, August 16, 2021, 02:40:37 PM MDT, Lyn Norstad <l...@lnainc.com> >> wrote: >> >> Interesting point, Don. >> >> I never thought of the "finger test" for that purpose, but the "Threshold of >> Pain" is normally considered to be 42C (or 107F).? My KPA500 reaches that >> temp after about 8 seconds of 40 meter carrier with a drive level of 18 >> watts and an output level of about 350 watts. (Normal 'power off temp' runs >> about 37C). >> >> The average person can touch a 140F surface for 5 seconds without sustaining >> irreversible burn damage. >> >> Such a simple, basic thing to know ... but who does? >> >> 73 >> Lyn, W0LEN >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net >> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm >> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 1:55 PM >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 Power Level >> >> All, >> >> I was reminded that I should have added that CW and SSB are low duty >> cycle modes while FT8 and several other data modes are high duty cycle >> and will produce more heat. >> >> The 'finger test' I mentioned is suitable for any mode. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ------------------------------ >> Aaron, >> >> I cannot give you a specific answer, but go by the heat. >> I would suggest you first try 5 watts, and operate at that level for a >> while (I suggest 10 minutes). >> Then check the heatsink temperature - if you can hold your fingers on it >> for longer than 5 minutes, then all is well. >> Increase the power by about 3 watts and try again. >> When the heat gets too much to comfortably hold your fingers on the >> heatsink (next to the PA transistors), then you have exceeded the >> maximum power which you should use for transmit. >> >> The generalized answer is that you should consider those modes as >> continuous duty and use 1/2 the normal full power output, but I suggest >> doing the test I referred to as a specific power limit for your >> particular K2. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> >>>> On 8/13/2021 3:38 PM, Aaron K5ATG wrote: >>> What is the recommended highest power level for a QRP Elecraft K2 to >>> operate on digital modes like FT8, JT65 etc, without blowing the PA's? >>> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to l...@lnainc.com >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to louand...@yahoo.com >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 15 >> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:21:19 -0700 >> From: Wes <wes_n...@triconet.org> >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status >> Message-ID: <cde2c0e1-2cf2-3168-d06d-9874d0431...@triconet.org> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >> >> And then wait another year until the bugs are fixed. >> >> Wes? N7WS >> >>>> On 8/16/2021 1:39 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: >>> Fred - >>> I'd wait until they have inventory. >>> >>> 73 >>> Lyn, W?LEN >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 16 >> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:22:27 -0700 >> From: Fred Jensen <k6...@foothill.net> >> To: l...@lnainc.com, 'Elecraft Reflector' <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status >> Message-ID: <728440a3-f94c-c4f7-dc35-625216b53...@foothill.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >> >> Well Lyn, I survived nearly four years of war during my bulletproof and >> immortal period, so I've assumed it will never be too late to buy a new >> radio. ?? My K3 [#642] is getting somewhat long in the tooth but it >> still functions great and I really enjoy it.? I've also had enough time >> to learn how to use most of the knobs and switches.? The two primary >> questions lurking in my head right now: >> >> 1.? I run W7RN remotely with the RemoteRig RRC-1258 setup and my K3.? If >> I replace my K3 with a K4, and Tom does _not_ do likewise at RN, will my >> remote setup still work? >> >> 2.? I have monochrome vision.? I run my P3 waterfall in monochrome mode >> [Thank you Alan!] since the colored mode makes no sense to me.? Does the >> K4 offer that same monochrome WF option? >> >> But, a new radio would be cool! >> >> 73, >> >> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW >> Sparks NV DM09dn >> Washoe County >> >>>> On 8/16/2021 1:39 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: >>> Fred - >>> >>> According to QRZ, you are 3 years older than I am ... and I am one year >>> beyond the current "Average Life Expectancy" in the USA (post-Covid) for >>> men. Not meaning to imply anything by that, but for me ... I'd wait until >>> they have inventory. >>> >>> 73 >>> Lyn, W?LEN >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net >>> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen >>> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 3:20 PM >>> To: Elecraft Reflector >>> Subject: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status >>> >>> I haven't seen much K4 chatter here lately, I wonder how things are >>> going in the shipping/delivery business. Were I to order one today, when >>> could I expect to start tracking a package? >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW >>> Sparks NV DM09dn >>> Washoe County >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 17 >> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 21:39:30 +0000 (UTC) >> From: Ken Roberson <kwrober...@yahoo.com> >> To: Elecraft Elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >> Subject: [Elecraft] K4 >> Message-ID: <2058860030.935911.1629149970...@mail.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> >> I have 4 kids, I could give each another $1500.00 when I dieor I could buy >> >> A new K4 , Let?s see which should I do? >> Ken K5DNL >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 18 >> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 17:56:33 -0400 >> From: Julia Tuttle <ju...@juliatuttle.net> >> To: Ken Roberson <kwrober...@yahoo.com> >> Cc: Elecraft Elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 >> Message-ID: >> <caevebrmuzvy0fsyxqo4bgvkkom3mfs8k77n_z51xgeshw10...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> ...well, that depends on your and their financial situations, plus the >> expected resale value of a K4 after you've passed and/or whether any of >> them would use it. >> >> You could also sell all your current radio gear and invest that money for >> them. >> >> On Mon, Aug 16, 2021, 17:40 Ken Roberson via Elecraft < >> elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote: >> >>> >>> I have 4 kids, I could give each another $1500.00 when I dieor I could buy >>> >>> A new K4 , Let?s see which should I do? >>> Ken K5DNL >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to ju...@juliatuttle.net >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 19 >> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 22:03:17 +0000 >> From: Lou Mecseri <lmecs...@cfl.rr.com> >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 >> Message-ID: <c63891c9-9fe5-6198-bcfd-eca78e9b9...@cfl.rr.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >> >> I would do the radio, You earned it, you should enjoy it. :) >> >> 73, Lou KE1F >> >>>> On 8/16/2021 21:39, Ken Roberson via Elecraft wrote: >>> I have 4 kids, I could give each another $1500.00 when I dieor I could buy >>> >>> A new K4 , Let?s see which should I do? >>> Ken K5DNL >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to lmecs...@cfl.rr.com >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 20 >> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 19:05:16 -0400 >> From: Stephen Black <kb1...@aol.com> >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 >> Message-ID: <6e2b46c1-5f31-6b29-4a5d-af34b4d43...@aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >> >> Can't take it with you and for all the crap we all faced in life we may >> as well enjoy our later years. Steve kb1chu >> >>>> On 8/16/2021 5:39 PM, Ken Roberson via Elecraft wrote: >>> I have 4 kids, I could give each another $1500.00 when I dieor I could buy >>> >>> A new K4 , Let?s see which should I do? >>> Ken K5DNL >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to kb1...@aol.com >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 21 >> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 19:13:27 -0400 >> From: Kyle Chavis <wa4...@gmail.com> >> To: Stephen Black <kb1...@aol.com> >> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 >> Message-ID: >> <CAC7wnKEiaSxKR-pNpqVwj448X=mPZKGwJGSX==+pp4cgnu0...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> If you think about it, they might take the money and buy a Baofeng!! >> OMG :) >> >> On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 7:06 PM Stephen Black via Elecraft < >> elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote: >> >>> Can't take it with you and for all the crap we all faced in life we may >>> as well enjoy our later years. Steve kb1chu >>> >>>> On 8/16/2021 5:39 PM, Ken Roberson via Elecraft wrote: >>>> I have 4 kids, I could give each another $1500.00 when I dieor I could >>> buy >>>> >>>> A new K4 , Let?s see which should I do? >>>> Ken K5DNL >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> Message delivered to kb1...@aol.com >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to wa4...@gmail.com >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 22 >> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 16:28:05 -0700 >> From: David Gilbert <ab7e...@gmail.com> >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status >> Message-ID: <82e429d8-0663-ec7c-109e-021cc744c...@gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >> >> >> Apparently not.? I recently asked on this list if new K4 users could >> tell us how well the K4 worked for remote operations.? The only replies >> I got said that Elecraft had not yet written a release version of the >> software for remote operation of the K4, and as best they could tell >> from the responses they had gotten from Elecraft there was no timetable >> for doing so.? Nobody from Elecraft bothered to answer my query, so they >> are probably correct. >> >> 73, >> Dave?? AB7E >> >> >> >> >> >>>> On 8/16/2021 2:22 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: >>> >>> 1.? I run W7RN remotely with the RemoteRig RRC-1258 setup and my K3.? >>> If I replace my K3 with a K4, and Tom does _not_ do likewise at RN, >>> will my remote setup still work? >>> >> >>> 73, >>> >>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW >>> Sparks NV DM09dn >>> Washoe County >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> You must be a subscriber to post. >> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >> >> End of Elecraft Digest, Vol 208, Issue 8 >> **************************************** > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jrhb...@outlook.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
