You're whining, nothing more.  It's unbecoming.

Pay attention to the lists; or not at your own risk.

Rick nk7i


On 10/8/2022 11:22 AM, David Gilbert wrote:

That's ridiculous.  Any company that had your attitude would be out of business.  No way should anyone have to keep track of emails on a listserver to know where their order stands.  I can't even believe you would think it so.

Wayne has plenty of time to post regular updates on his personal ham radio operations, but not enough to make sure his customers have someone sending them regular updates on orders they have paid for months earlier?  This isn't about supply chain problems.  This is about Elecraft's basic responsibility to keep paid customers informed.  "Personal hand holding" is what Elecraft used to be known for, and it's no longer valid for them to blame the lack of it on fires and supply chain issues.

Several years ago out of pure curiosity I did a survey of over 2,000 more or less randomly chosen reviews on eHam.  Almost ALL of the ratings of 1 of 2 (out of 5) were for poor responsiveness and customer service.  Not product features, not product cost, and not reliability ... but for bad communication and apparent lack of care.

Dave  AB7E

owner of a K1, K3, and KX2


On 10/8/2022 8:54 AM, Rick NK7I wrote:
This is well beyond tiresome now.

They HAVE stated the situation via email, to the group(s) recently.  Lack of attention by the reader/s is NOT their fault. They won't take the time for personal hand holding, that time is better spent assembling and shipping what product they can move.

They can't sell what they can't get.  The last order THEY got was sub-standard, sent back to await a new shipment (a few weeks ago).

ALL shipments of ANY type have been tediously slow, worldwide. A month setback creates a year of backlog; the entire world was shut down for over 2 YEARS.  It will take a decade or more to get back on track as we know it.  Normal doesn't exist anymore.

If you NEED a mic, get another until the one you want (and ordered and paid for) is eventually available.

The rest, is noise and whining, showing complete lack of understanding and patience.  Let's END this thread.


73,
Rick nk7i


On 10/8/2022 8:22 AM, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote:
Dave/AB7E seems to understand the point 100% correctly and a lot of you are
twisting my (and others) words.


The point is not that I don't have a microphone or that I couldn't cobble
together a connector for from another brand of mic.

I could even (I suppose) find an alternate on Amazon or somewhere (should I
have to buy another mic?)


The point is, almost a year ago I purchased a KX2-shack-in-a-box kit and it came without a mic (it was purchased and paid for as part of that kit) and I had to inform Elecraft once it arrived that I was shorted a mic.) Nothing in the paperwork nor any communication before it arrived stated it would be
arriving w/o a MH3 mic, so this was a surprise.

   I even have an email from Wayne from January 10th,2022 that states (in
part) ".We should have MH3s back in stock in several weeks. Will that
suffice?..."


It's a long way from early December 2021 when I finally was invoiced (after I submitted my purchase request in October or November) 2021 and finally paid for my KX2 shack-in-a-box kit (which I love by the way_) (or even Jan
10th, 2021_)


All I am saying is..there has been zero communication like "we know we owe you a microphone and when we get them you'll be on the top of the list when
we get them.) ZERO.


All I have is a couple (now very old) emails from Wayne from early January that "it must have be an oversight" (which I accept; Hey - nobody's or any
company is perfect) I get it.


I accept the oversight.  I accept the backorder.  I check the Elecraft site for shipping status.  I know they don't have them. I deal with electronic
parts and service over 11,000 devices as part of my everyday job.  I
communicate with my "customers"


Do I know that THEY know I am owed one?  Well, not really.  I have (now old) emails from January from Wayne-that's it.  I know he has much bigger fish to fry than some mic for a New Brunswicker on the other side of the continent.

I know it won't be Wayne that (hopefully) eventually boxes up and ships me a
mic. It's whoever keeps track of old, long since departed orders.


If I am going to wait nearly a year (or maybe more), it might've been nice
to get an email every 4-5 months from a
shipping/receiving/purchasing/billing dept staff member saying "we haven't
forgot about you".


As of now, myself and all others that I've been in touch with(on this
particular issue), have rec'd nothing. We don't know if:

The person boxing up the KX2 kits didn't know there was supposed to be a mic
included

or

They boxed up the kits anyways to get 95% of the product out the door to
waiting customers

or

Even if they have record of the folks who have complete kits vs kits missing
mics.

or

Something else.


We just don't know.


Communications have been non existent from the shipping dept (ever) and none since Jan 10th . 2021 (from Wayne himself, who seems quite knowledgeable and
friendly btw)


Sincerely,


Mike VE9AA

Oh, and lest anyone think I am mad. No , I am not mad. Overall I am very
happy with my $10k+ worth of Elecraft products.

It just doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling to maybe order a K4HD (or two
for SO2R) when the time comes.

==============

That isn't the point at all, it isn't what I said, and you know it.   I
simply believe that the folks who have paid for stuff many months ago should be kept regularly informed ... directly, not via word of mouth. It's not expensive for Elecraft to do so.  They just have to care a bit more.  They
know exactly what the status of everything is at any point in time.


Dave   AB7E



On 10/7/2022 12:43 PM, Richard Hill wrote:

I understood that ordered microphone parts were substandard when delivered
and new parts had to be sourced, delaying production.


Would you have preferred they delayed shipping the shack in a box until the
mics were available?


NU6T



On Fri, Oct 7, 2022, 12:12 PM David Gilbert <[email protected]> wrote:



     I believe his point includes the lack of any communication

     updates. I've

     suggested before that a single clerk could post regular updates

     here on

     any backorder situations.  Even if they just stated the same thing,

     people would know where they stood instead of wondering if they had

     simply been forgotten (as some folks actually have been).


     Other companies I've been associated with and have worked for

     understand

     this much better.


     Dave   AB7E


Mike, Coreen & Corey

Keswick Ridge, NB


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