Don suggested this would be worth posting...

When dealing with antennas, things are never as "precise" as we might want them to be. Folks talk about antenna tuners as if they work magic, then wonder why things aren't as good as they should be. An ATU at the shack in line with a coax-fed antenna has one big purpose. It provides a nice load for the transceiver. It does absolutely nothing to help out the feedline or antenna itself. The very precious RF gets burnt up in the coax (with its unknown, but potentially very high SWR) between the tuner and the antenna. There are strange RF currents all over the place, especially on the coax, which not only heats the coax, but tend to screw up the antenna radiation pattern as well.

My belief is that there are three solutions to the problem.
1) Place the ATU _AT_ the antenna feed point. The problem is that it is really a pain to do in most cases.

2) Use matched antennas on all bands. Cebik points this out in a great paper on his website that discusses open-wire vs coax fed antennas (see "To Trap or Not To Trap", http://www.cebik.com/wire/trapqq.html). This is also the solution used by the larger (more serious, lots of money to spend) contesters.

3) Use open-wire feed. There we don't care about the mismatch since the feedline loss is microscopic. The RF currents balance themselves out so that the feedline doesn't radiate. But we then need a decent tuner to feed the antenna & open-wire. Here I drop back to the old tank-circuit tuners which make things "sing!" I don't like to use a balun here - it's just another device to burn up the precious RF when you hit a severe mis-match node.

Now if you don't have a swinging-link balanced tuner, but do have an L-network tuner and are running low power, go ahead with a 1:1 balun. At low power there is little chance you will saturate the balun core unless you get really unlucky and hit a severe node at the operating frequency.

I do use coax to feed my antennas, but only for those that are matched for the band/frequency. For all others, especially ones that are used on multiple bands, I use open-wire feed. The length of the feed really doesn't matter because of the super low loss. What happens is the feedline transposes the antenna feed impedance to a value dependent on the feedline length and operating frequency. The balanced antenna tuner then matches whatever impedance it is presented with, making the transceiver very happy. And with the low- loss characteristics of open-wire feed, just about everything the K2/100 puts out gets radiated by the antenna!

On Oct 1, 2006, at 6:20 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Zac,

Why guess?

You can find the antenna feedpoint impedance for various bands on L B
Cebik's website (at least it used to be there) www.cebik.com .
Armed with that information along with the known length of your feedline,
use TLW which you can download from the ARRL website
http://www.arrl.org/notes/9043/TLW3B.zip and feed the information into TLW to find your shack end impedance for each band of interest. A bit of cut 'n' try with TLW can find you the best compromise feedline length to ues
with your antenna.

73,
Don W3FPR


-----Original Message-----

    I'm sorry but I need to add this before Zac Brown does something
real stupid. When using 450 ohm feed line you must use this EXACT
length. The exact length is that which goes from the antenna to the
balun in your shack.

Any talk about matching the 450 ohms is not correct. The feed line runs with a very high SWR and since it is low loss there is just a tiny
loss. It will correct to a 1:1 SWR between your tuner and the radio.

And about the balun. Seems if you have a 4:1 or 1:1 to choose from I would choose the 1:1 because it does a better job of keeping the current
balanced in the balanced feed line.

This is pretty complex stuff but you Zac do not need to do the math. Just put it up and use it. I have been using it for 8 years now. Had to
get feed line. A hail storm just beat up my feed line :-)

    I have done the math. It takes several Smith Charts to plot the
current through the system.

73 Karl K5DI




Zac Brown wrote:
So what's the best way to add some more line to the middle of my
feedline?  Is there a technique for joining two pieces of 450 ohm
ladder line that doesn't create an imbalance in the line? Can I just leave one "leg" straight and then wrap the corresponding "leg" (on the other piece) other around it, then solder them together? Or should I
just leave both legs straight and then solder them together?  Or how
about using those twist locks that you use for wiring up lights?

This is probably a silly question, but I took great care to route the
line away from anything that would imbalance it, and would hate to
mess that up now.  This is my first experience with balanced line :)

Thanks,

Zac
KD5IEF
K2# 4907


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