Folks, I think you are being a bit unfair to Windy. The guy wants to establish a K3 user's group. What's wrong with that? Perhaps his announcement was a bit "cavalier", but I took it to be an attempt at humor (i.e. saying brasspounders should get a life, etc.). I have no idea who Windy is, or whether he can successfully organize a net that substantively holds my interest. I'm not even sure I'll participate. But I'm not going to assume on the front end that his motives are ulterior or inappropriate. At least he's trying to show a little initiative!

Now, I am assuming Windy intended this to be a net where there was actually some substantitive discussion about the K3--it's pluses and minuses, operating issues, etc. Maybe it would be a chance for others to put their K3 on the air and get on-the-air advice about your setup. If that's the case, I can understand why he preferred not to confuse things with other Elecraft rigs. They are different, and have many different issues. But if it's just going to be a "check in and say howdy" type net, with no dedication to substantive discussion of the rig itself, then I agree that there isn't much justification to exclusions.

But I also got the impression that you didn't have to have a K3 to check in, he just wanted the topic to be about the K3. I would further assume it would be an excellent opportunity for non-K3 owners to ask questions about the K3, or even about comparisions with other rigs--there just needs to be some nexus to K3's.

There are all sorts of reflectors, etc. that deal with specific rigs. There are also some groups that deal with brand names, not just specific models. I think those all have their individual purposes. If someone just wants to have a generic Elecraft net, go ahead and establish one! Kevin has a fine CW net like this, although there is not much discussion about the various rigs that goes on during that net. So if you want to do this on SSB, I think that's fine.

I just don't understand why folks go off half-cocked because someone wants to do something with a specific purpose. Windy apparently wants to talk about K3's. There is a lot to talk about, you will have to admit that. If you have a K3, want a K3, or are just interested in K3's, you would presumably be welcome to participate. I don't see a thing "elitist" about it, and I think he has clarified that in subsequent follow-up posts. I suppose if you think making the topic that narrow would not fill up the time allowed, it would be appropriate to point that out as your opinion. But since he is the one setting it up, I think it's his privilege to establish the agenda. I can certainly see how making the "agenda" too broad could be a distraction. He's simply inviting anyone else with a similar interest to participate. If your interest is broader than that, it probably is appropriate to find, or establish, a different venue. But for crying out loud, don't shoot the guy just because it doesn't meet your goals. You can certainly offer your suggestions, but don't throw spears at him! That's just plain negative thinking. Personally, I choose to assume his intentions are innocent and honorable. If his idea is a "bust", he will find out soon enough. People won't show up for the party.

Dave W7AQK



----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Windy Dankoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Crafters" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 2:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Calling the K3 USERS GROUP on SSB


I have a K3, but unlikely I'll be able to reach you guys yet.

But I totally disagree with this K3 only stance, so I won't even bother.

This should be a net for all Elecrafters - ok, that's going to be just K2 &
K3 until the K1 gets SSB or the K4 comes out.



On 29/02/2008 05:12, "Windy Dankoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:

Gus,

I wrote on my announcement: "If you have non-K3 Elecraft topics, check in. If your discussion goes off-topic, move to a nearby
frequency."

So YES, K2'ers please check in. If our K3 net is active, simply move off to a nearby frequency. Once you have established your frequency,
announce your own net!!

But, do stop in and visit some time  :-)

Windy
KM5Q

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Accuracy Transcends Speed


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