On May 31, 2008, at 3:31 PM, Don Rasmussen wrote:

So, is this a good problem statement?

Negative.

This may be hard to grasp if you have never used an
IC756p 775dsp, or OMNI VI+.

I have an IC-706MKII. (Speaking of bad user interfaces ...)

The object is to have single press access to a desired
band, on the last freq and mode you used - without
ever needing to specifically perform a "save"
operation of that frequency and mode in the past.

But that already happens when I return to a band. I guess I don't see the huge advantage of have a separate button to do this when the standard band-changing button already does that. OK, I have to press my band changing button multiple times to get from 6M to 160M but that is not a likely scenario. Most of the time the band I want to get to is only one or two button-presses away.

The rig is smart enough to know anytime that you leave
a band using memory recall or FREQ ENT, to store the
last band's freq, mode, and filter settings for single
button recall later.

Well, the K2 already does that. I am assuming that the K3 does too. I'm just not seeing an advantage yet.

And isn't it more likely that people are going to grab the VFO knob and twist? If you do that how is the radio going to know to save the freq? See, you still need a button-press to say "remember".

The "stacking" art of the idea happens when the rig is
smart enough to save (for example) the last 3 places
you were on 10 meters, without you ever having to
press a button.

How does it know what the "last" three places were? When I change bands? That seems just silly. The radio is not telepathic and can't know that I want a particular frequency? If it only happens when I leave a band, well, that seems silly as well and now we are back to the "frequency of interest" stack I suggested. Oh yeah, when I enter another frequency with the keypad. Yeah, I do that all the time ... NOT. I tune across the band with the VFO looking for interesting signals.

Look, you want to know what comes naturally to people? Sit a new ham in front of the radio. I guarantee they are going to grab the VFO knob to change frequencies, not key in a new one on the keypad.

(Caveat -- the K3 may already have this, I don't know. If so, I apologize for wasting everyone's time.)

For example, the first press of the 10 meter button
would call up 28.010 CW 500hz, the second press,
28.400 usb, and the third press, 29.600 FM with PL and
negative offset - if these were the last three spots
on 10 meters where you were operating.

So I spin the VFO dial, hear a CQ, and reply. Is that when the radio knows a frequency is "of interest"? Does keying the rig mean "save this"? Do I have to enter a new frequency or change bands? Seems awkward. Seems like, "remember this," or, "remember this in memory 1," (I understand that the K3 does this already) makes more sense to me.

All of this is a user-interface issue. Frankly, the user interface on most radios that have microcontrollers sucks.

You never have to press "save", you have an automatic
"bread crumb" trail of all the most recent places
you've been

I must be dense. No matter how it works I still need to do *something* to indicate that a frequency is of interest. Just pausing on a frequency is not enough. I may have gotten a phone call. I have to *DO* something to make the radio know to save that frequency. And if I have to do something, it may as well be to tell the radio explicitly that I want this frequency.

I am somewhat sensitive to this issue right now. I have 12 new hams in my classroom (10 tech and two upgrade to general). They are all chomping at the bit to get on the air. I am telling the kids that to get on a repeater all they need to do is set the repeater output frequency, the offset, and the PL tone into the radio to get in. One 5th grade boy conned his folks into getting him a new Yaesu VX-3R HT. OH MY GOD what an awful radio. I spent a good 5 minutes trying to fathom that abortion of a user interface and then had to punt to the 7th grader (just upgraded to general -- good kid) who had more time than I did. (I still had to work with the other kids.) After both of them spending 15 minutes heads-down over the manual they figured out how to program repeaters and save them to memory. An hour later I asked the boy to show me what the sequence was to program a repeater into his radio. The response? "Uh ... (furrowed brow) ... (poke-poke- poke) ... (deer-in-headlights-look) ... (run for the manual) ... uh, could you help me again?" Yeah right. Good job Yaesu.

From now on my recommendations on radios are going to hinge on the rationality of the UI. It doesn't matter how good the radio is if the operator can't figure out how to use it. And if you can't use it without the manual, how are you going to use it in the field?

(BTW after all this I tossed them an old IC-2AT I use as a hidden transmitter for our T-hunts. The response? "But this is so easy! How come the other radios aren't this easy?" At least Elecraft has active hams working on the design of their radios so there is SOME hope for us. :-)

So, give me a simple, obvious UI. I can dispense with most features. And while I don't think you can beat the UI on the Collins KWM2, the K2 is pretty usable. Certainly the kids and I can manage to get that radio on the air and on the proper mode to make contacts, without ever having to consult the manual. Set the band, set the frequency, set the mode, set the filter, set the keyer speed, and start. We even go from band to band and the last frequency/mode/filter for that band pops up. No huhu.

Well, there is one nit -- who came up with the brilliant idea that AGC OFF is not on the AGC button? Another friend has a K2 and didn't even know there was an 'AGC Off' function! I had to explain that it was function-shift-filter-power-PTT-meta-control-alt-delete-something to turn the AGC off and to go look it up in the manual. Hello! Fast, slow, Off, Fast, Slow, Off. It isn't rocket science.

(Sorry. Sometimes I get carried away.)

--

73 de Brian, WB6RQN
Brian Lloyd - brian HYPHEN wb6rqn AT lloyd DOT com



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