> I stand in defence of Alexandr on this, it was something I asked for > before the first production run - I'm still having treatment for the > burns - so please, accept that not everyone feels this is not a good > idea (just as I would defend you for asking for wide-band Tx in VK > because your band plans are different).
... and I strongly support Gary on this. Roger beeps and other CB- like activities are so antithetical to good amateur operation that transceivers should not even include the option to enable them. If an operator want to be a lid that badly they should be required to separately purchase and install the hardware necessary to do so. There is a reason that no reputable manufacturer of amateur rigs has ever provided a "roger beep" option on HF transceivers - or having done so one time has immediately discontinued it in future products. That this operation is "on V/UHF" is no justification for liddish behavior. 73, ... Joe, W4TV > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David > Ferrington, M0XDF > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:13 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Elecraft > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 1750Hz roger beep > > > I stand in defence of Alexandr on this, it was something I asked for > before the first production run - I'm still having treatment for the > burns - so please, accept that not everyone feels this is not a good > idea (just as I would defend you for asking for wide-band Tx in VK > because your band plans are different). > As long as this is configurable, I don't see where the > problem is. If > VK decide this is unacceptable in VK, then people wont use it > there. However, it is acceptable over here in G land and is > used quite a lot > on V/UHF - there are two factions here, those that think it > helps in > poor conditions, and those that think it looses you a second during > the over - not come across any that feel it makes it harder or > distracting - I personally quite like the idea. > 73 de M0XDF > > -- > The rung of a ladder was never meant to rest upon, but only > to hold a > man's > foot long enough to enable him to put the other somewhat > higher. -Thomas Henry Huxley, biologist and writer (1825-1995) > > On 6 Oct 2009, at 20:59, [email protected] wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > (Snip) > > > > 1) redesign this as for Roger-Beeb (at the end of transmit) for any > > voice mode (FM, SSB) - maybe with some tone to choose (sometimes CW > > "K" on higher wpm used also) (End Snip) > > > > PLEASE do NOT do this. > > > > Many operators in VK hate this CBer type of operating. > > > > A lot of us refuse to acknowledge a TX with a roger beep of any > > kind, even in a contest. > > > > Don't try and tell me it helps, it doesn't. It just adds to > the noise. > > > > A group of us have written to the regulator in Australia and have > > asked for a ruling to make it illegal to TX a roger beep > tone and we > > have received word from them that a ruling is being considered. > > > > If successful, we will petition the FCC to do likewise. > > > > Working weak signals, the roger beeps are distracting and > not helpful. > > > > As for our friends in the EU who contest, you do not need a roger > > beep, but you could work on cleaning up your audio as some of the > > worst audio I have heard on the bands lately is coming from badly > > set up audio out of some stations in the EU in the contest. > > > > BTW, 10/15M was rocking into VK this last weekend. > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
