I'm not happy with the expeceted price of the P3, but even I know that I'm not 
getting "sucked into" anything... Did he really think that once he paid his 
money he couldn't back out? Seriously? Highly questionable business practice? 
Please....
 
> From: br...@livecomputers.com
> To: nn4x.st...@gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:04:50 -0800
> CC: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft P3 panadapter at the Orlando Hamcation
> 
> They would have refunded your money if you wanted to back out you
> weren't sucked into anything.
> 
> ~Brett
> 
> 
> On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 11:08 -0500, S Sacco wrote:
> > Guy -
> > 
> > Please don't forget that Elecraft sucked in quite a few of us on the K3 by
> > promising wildly optimistic delivery dates. I consider that to be a highly
> > questionable business practice.
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV 
> > <olin...@bellsouth.net>wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Dave - AB7E <xda...@cis-broadband.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Are the feature list and specifications now firm? And if so, what are
> > > they? I would have thought that anyone contemplating spending $700 for any
> > > box, even with the Elecraft name on it, would want to know what it does
> > > before sending off the check.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I should note that putting a prototype, and then later a working early
> > > model in front of the public for comment at some convention-style
> > > event, is RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT. Early ham feedback at hamfests is
> > > essential, and it too is R&D.
> > >
> > > It's only the customers (and pent up demand) that are mistakenly
> > > insisting that they are slow. You want the kind of innovation and
> > > service they are known for, you have to wait. It's not a flaw or
> > > laziness, or some kind of commie plot to rob us of our toys. It's
> > > careful business. Good stuff at good prices is the hardest thing to
> > > do. What was that thing, you can have two of the three, quick,
> > > quality, low price? (Personally, I'm betting quality AND low price is
> > > at the root of the amp thing, I'll wait.)
> > >
> > > I wonder if anyone has noticed businesses going down for getting even
> > > close to the edge these days? Hello? The early plunk for the K3 was
> > > a VOLUNTARY early alternative financing scheme. Lot better than them
> > > being leveraged by a bank that pulls the plug on them for completely
> > > unrelated reasons. Any Rip Van Winkle types please check the
> > > financials for the last couple of years for historical information and
> > > note that Ronald Reagan is not president any more.
> > >
> > > Personally, I want Elecraft around for a while. Conservative business
> > > practices with no screeching tires at cliff's edge is just super
> > > peachy fine by me. There is no TARP fund bailout for Elecraft. They go
> > > down, we're back to getting our stuff from Yakencom and stuck with
> > > what they decide for us, whether we like it or not.
> > >
> > > And some folks WOULD plunk now for unfirm features (and there's no big
> > > gorilla around MAKING anyone plunk -- it's a CHOICE one makes), with
> > > the personal SELF-assurance that if it isn't what they want, they can
> > > come here and sell it on the reflector, fast.
> > >
> > > 73, Guy.
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