Definitely helpful Wes.

The S-meter cal is a whole separate process, right? Do I need to do that 
again?

My ears, as well as the meter tell me I'm not hearing as much junk. 
Meaning external noise, not internal.

73, Mike

Wes Stewart wrote:
> Maybe some clarification of what the "calibration" really does would be 
> helpful.
>
> The hardware AGC in the K3 operates on the post-filter FET IF amplifier and 
> associated diodes.  The "RF" gain control (really IF gain) under the control 
> of the DSP adds a control voltage to the hardware AGC loop.  If the manual 
> gain control voltage exceeds the detected AGC voltage then it controls the IF 
> gain, otherwise, it's in the hands of the AGC detector.
>
> Unfortunately, there is variability (no pun intended) in the FET Gm, from 
> device to device, hence for a given control voltage, each FET behaves 
> differently.  In comparison of my K3 to another, the differences were 
> remarkable.  In mine, even a slight reduction of manual gain caused an 
> immediate and obvious degradation of SNR even on a BC station that was S9+50 
> dB.  The comparison radio was much better behaved.
>
> Anyone who has done any design work on receivers understands "delayed" AGC 
> where the delay serves to keep the gain nearer the front end high enough to 
> maintain SNR and only reduces it after the SNR is fully developed.  Clearly, 
> in my radio's case, the gain partitioning between the IF and DSP was being 
> negatively affected and the SNR took a hit.
>
> The RF gain calibration was a response to this issue and serves to measure 
> the dB gain reduction vs. control voltage and develop a correction in 
> firmware that linearizes (in dB) the curve.
>
> Contrary to the belief of some, this isn't an S-meter calibration, although 
> that is a secondary benefit.  Likewise, absent the development of hardware 
> AGC and/or the manual reduction of IF gain, it doesn't change the overall 
> gain of the radio.
>
>  
>
> --- On Sun, 3/14/10, r...@aol.com <r...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> From: r...@aol.com <r...@aol.com>
>> Subject: [Elecraft] K-3 RF Gain Calibration
>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 12:22 PM
>> Mike,
>>   
>> Are you saying that your S-Meter reads 3-4 s-units MORE
>> noise level now  
>> that you did the RF Gain calibration with the XG-2?  I
>> was going to make  the 
>> same adjustment with my K-3.  But if you are getting a
>> 3-4  s-unit higher 
>> noise level after the adjustment has been done... I won't
>> be  making the 
>> adjustment as my K-3 is already more sensitive than I need
>> on the low  bands.  
>> I'd use a 20dB ATT on the low bands often if I had
>> one  available.  Perhaps 
>> one day we'll be able to change the K-3's RF Gain per 
>> band via software to 
>> help adapt to our local noise environment. 
>> (mine  is very noisy on the low 
>> bands with thunderstorm QRN off the  Atlantic). 
>> For those who may be 
>> concerned, yes I do use the RF  Gain control.
>>   
>> 73,
>> Dick- K9OM
>>   
>>   
>> Sorry if this comes across more than once, I'm having some
>> e-mail  issues.
>>
>> I just did an RF gain calibration, using the XG2 and the
>> K3  utility on 
>> my kit K3 (built in Sept. '09).
>>
>> There seems to be a  dramatic difference in my noise
>> level, 3-4 s units, 
>> with a calibrated  s-meter. I think I can pull more
>> stuff out of the 
>> ditches and weeds  now.
>>
>> Does that seem reasonable?
>>
>> 73, Mike  NF4L
>>
>>     


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