Joe,

You were right!

The "Y" cable at the SteppIR connector had the other leads of the RS232 
connector connected.

I disconnected all cable leads and left only 2 and 5 cable leads connected. I 
confirmed that 7 and 9 were already 
jumpered.

All is working now using the Edgeport USB>SERIAL converter.

Thanks!

73,

Bud W3LL
w...@arrl.net


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <li...@subich.com>
To: "'Bud Governale, W3LL'" <w...@arrl.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 12:38 PM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Edgeport Adapter with K3 and SteppIR



> My K3 serial number is 2285. Not sure if this is early or not.

As far as I know its after the problem was resolved.  However,
you could check the -V generator on the KIO3 board.

> I will check the Y cable. I think there are more than 2 wires
> connected to the SteppIR controller.

Should only be 2 and 5 with a jumper between 7 and 9 (if I recall
correctly).

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bud Governale, W3LL [mailto:w...@arrl.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 11:37 AM
> To: Joe Subich, W4TV
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Edgeport Adapter with K3 and SteppIR
>
>
> Joe,
>
> I will check the Y cable. I think there are more than 2 wires
> connected to the SteppIR controller.
>
> My K3 serial number is 2285. Not sure if this is early or not.
>
> 73,
>
> Bud W3LL
> w...@arrl.net
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <li...@subich.com>
> To: "'Bud Governale, W3LL'" <w...@arrl.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 11:15 AM
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Edgeport Adapter with K3 and SteppIR
>
>
>
> Bud,
>
> Also make sure the K3 is able to pull a reasonable load
> to at least -3V.  Some early units had "weak" DC to DC
> converters and did not necessarily handle the a solid
> RS-232 signal well.
>
> Make sure your Y cable has only two wires to the SteppIR
> controller as well.  There are additional voltages on some
> pins that can cause an issue.
>
> 73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bud Governale, W3LL [mailto:w...@arrl.net]
> > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 10:11 PM
> > To: Joe Subich, W4TV
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Edgeport Adapter with K3 and SteppIR
> >
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> > I completely agree with your analysis.
> >
> > I'll be in touch with SteppIR for a remedial suggestion.
> >
> > Thanks and 73,
> >
> > Bud W3LL
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <li...@subich.com>
> > To: "'Bud Governale, W3LL'" <w...@arrl.net>;
> > <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 6:15 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Edgeport Adapter with K3 and SteppIR
> >
> >
> >
> > Do you have an application (the K3 Utility) that can send a
> > command to the K3 and determine if the K3 is responding (e.g.,
> > changes mode in response to the MD0;/MD1; commands)?
> >
> > My guess is that the SteppIR controller loads the data line
> > from the K3 to the Edgeport.  That loading is most likely
> > too much pull-up current which prevents the K3 from pulling
> > the output data line below -3V as required by the RS-232
> > standard.
> >
> > It is likely that the "consumer grade" Prolific converter
> > worked when the data line went below 1V.  The Edgeport
> > interfaces are widely used in industrial control applications
> > where the noise margin is critical so they adhere much more
> > closely to the +/-3V minimum signal level standards.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> >    ... Joe, W4TV
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bud Governale, W3LL [mailto:w...@arrl.net]
> > > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 5:19 PM
> > > To: Joe Subich, W4TV
> > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Edgeport Adapter with K3 and SteppIR
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, when I disconnect the leg of the "Y" cable that
> attaches to the
> > > SteppIR control box and leave the "Y" cable in place the
> K3 begins
> > > to respond.
> > >
> > > 73,
> > >
> > > Bud W3LL
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <li...@subich.com>
> > > To: "'Bud Governale, W3LL'" <w...@arrl.net>;
> > > <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> > > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 5:04 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Edgeport Adapter with K3 and SteppIR
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Have you checked the "Y" cable to make sure it is appropriate for
> > > the new hardware?
> > >
> > > If you disconnect the leg of the "Y" cable that attaches to the
> > > SteppIR control box but leave the Y cable in place does
> the K3 begin
> > > to respond?
> > >
> > > 73,
> > >
> > >    ... Joe, W4TV
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> > > > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bud
> > > > Governale, W3LL
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 1:31 PM
> > > > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> > > > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Edgeport Adapter with K3 and SteppIR
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have my K3 and SteppIR controller talking perfectly thru the
> > > > computer logging program and "Y" cable using a Prolific USB to
> > > > Serial converter cable.
> > > >
> > > > I purchased an "Edgeport 8" USB to Serial converter and
> > removed all
> > > > the Prolific cables to existing devices and connected
> all directly
> > > > to the Edgeport. All three devices work perfectly.
> However the K3
> > > > no longer responds to computer control. It's not
> recognized by the
> > > > software.
> > > >
> > > > I discovered that the K3 is recognized and controlled by the
> > > > software (both DX4win and N1MM) when I remove the "Y" cable
> > > > connection to the SteppIR.
> > > >
> > > > If I reconnect the SteppIR controller then the K3 is no longer
> > > > controlled by software. If I go back to the Prolific USB
> > to Serial
> > > > cable all works well again.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone know or care to guess why the K3 to SteppIR
> > combination won't
> > > > work thru the Edgeport 8 port adapter or any other of
> its 7 other
> > > > ports?
> > > >
> > > > 73,
> > > >
> > > > Bud W3LL
> > > > w...@arrl.net
> > > >
> > > >
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