Hmmmm

Guess I missed the point completely.

Apologies to all

Gary

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 2:52 AM, Steve Ellington <n...@carolina.rr.com>wrote:

> Ok guys...now calm down!
> I shouldn't have said anything.
> The K3's audio is just fine and there's plenty of it.
> I was just comparing it to the IC-7000.
> I never use internal speakers.
> Yes I know about the hi/low setting in the menu and yes I'm using an
> efficient speaker and no I'm not deaf. I'm just saying that some other rigs
> have more AF power and perhaps there is a reason.
> Looking at the K3's specifications, I don't see what the AF power rating is
> so it's hard to compare.
> So YES....The K3 has plenty of audio....at 8:00 o'clock or whatever....Of
> course at 11:00 o'clock I do turn it down!
>
> Steve
> N4LQ
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: <rfenab...@gmail.com>
> To: "Steve Ellington" <n...@carolina.rr.com>;
> <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net>; "Tom W8JI" <w...@w8ji.com>;
> <n...@nf4l.com>; "Elecraft" <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 12:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Low headphone audio level
>
>
> > Steve,
> >
> > I have never found a radio with an internal speaker that I liked. The
> > FTdx9000D came close. (But what a price tag)
> >
> > I have always used external speakers as well as put up with degraded
> > hearing.
> >
> > The K3 driving various speakers (non amplified) provides good audio
> levels
> > for me to the point whereby I can clearly hear voices at 10 plus metres
> > from the radio.
> >
> > This was not always the case. I sent mine to Aptos for upgrades to the
> > current spec earlier this year and the audio has been improved
> > dramatically since it's return.
> >
> > I wonder if you have the problem I had?
> >
> > Mine (#679) is now superb to my ears. I run the AF at 10 o'clock or less
> > with or without the CM-500 headphones.
> >
> > 73's
> > Gary
> > VK4FD
> > Sent via BlackBerry® from Telstra
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Steve Ellington" <n...@carolina.rr.com>
> > Sender: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> > Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:32:56
> > To: Tom W8JI<w...@w8ji.com>; <n...@nf4l.com>; <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Low headphone audio level
> >
> > As far as I'm concerned, all the audio is weak on the K3. Using the same
> > speaker, the little IC7000 blows the K3 off the desk. Maybe it's got
> > something to do with current drain. The Icom does use considerable more
> > power in receive mode and runs pretty hot. The K3's audio is quiet
> > adequate
> > but just not very loud.
> >
> > Steve
> > N4LQ
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tom W8JI" <w...@w8ji.com>
> > To: <n...@nf4l.com>; <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 9:16 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Low headphone audio level
> >
> >
> >>>> We sort of got sidetracked from the original posters remarks. It's
> >>>> about
> >>>> low
> >>>> headphone level on the K3. If the level were a bit higher there would
> >>>> be
> >>>> no
> >>>> need to plug the headphones into the speaker jack. Similarly each pair
> >>>> of
> >>>> headphones you grab seems to have a different level. I have 3
> different
> >>>> headphones and don't intend to buy a forth. Naturally the one that is
> >>>> the
> >>>> most comfortable is also the one with the lowest level. And I
> >>>> understand
> >>>> that most people don't seem to have this problem. It might be better
> >>>> hearing
> >>>> or better headphones.
> >>
> >> A good audio line with lots of volume headroom is everything. I can't
> >> imagine spending so much time on everything else in the station and then
> >> not
> >> spending any time on something used and changed all the time like the
> >> audio
> >> output lines.
> >>
> >> I have never liked nor used the headphone jacks in anything from my
> >> boatanchors up through my FT1000's of all flavors and the K3. I've never
> >> found them suitable or flexible enough for my tastes.
> >>
> >> I always run the speaker line out to a switching system, and I terminate
> >> that line in a load safe for the radio. Then I bridge off that line with
> >> either a good big speaker and audio amp, or headphones.
> >>
> >> I have virtually no problems at all with any headphone bridging across
> >> the
> >> speaker output lines of any radio, and I can bridge multiple headsets at
> >> once.
> >>
> >> The toughest thing for me is to get guest ops to stop using the
> headphone
> >> jacks on receivers and transceivers, and to use the desk mounted jacks.
> >>
> >> http://www.w8ji.com/cables_and_wiring.htm
> >>
> >> I have to finish that page some day. :-)
> >>
> >> 73 Tom
> >>
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