Hmmmm Guess I missed the point completely.
Apologies to all Gary On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 2:52 AM, Steve Ellington <n...@carolina.rr.com>wrote: > Ok guys...now calm down! > I shouldn't have said anything. > The K3's audio is just fine and there's plenty of it. > I was just comparing it to the IC-7000. > I never use internal speakers. > Yes I know about the hi/low setting in the menu and yes I'm using an > efficient speaker and no I'm not deaf. I'm just saying that some other rigs > have more AF power and perhaps there is a reason. > Looking at the K3's specifications, I don't see what the AF power rating is > so it's hard to compare. > So YES....The K3 has plenty of audio....at 8:00 o'clock or whatever....Of > course at 11:00 o'clock I do turn it down! > > Steve > N4LQ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <rfenab...@gmail.com> > To: "Steve Ellington" <n...@carolina.rr.com>; > <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net>; "Tom W8JI" <w...@w8ji.com>; > <n...@nf4l.com>; "Elecraft" <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 12:19 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Low headphone audio level > > > > Steve, > > > > I have never found a radio with an internal speaker that I liked. The > > FTdx9000D came close. (But what a price tag) > > > > I have always used external speakers as well as put up with degraded > > hearing. > > > > The K3 driving various speakers (non amplified) provides good audio > levels > > for me to the point whereby I can clearly hear voices at 10 plus metres > > from the radio. > > > > This was not always the case. I sent mine to Aptos for upgrades to the > > current spec earlier this year and the audio has been improved > > dramatically since it's return. > > > > I wonder if you have the problem I had? > > > > Mine (#679) is now superb to my ears. I run the AF at 10 o'clock or less > > with or without the CM-500 headphones. > > > > 73's > > Gary > > VK4FD > > Sent via BlackBerry® from Telstra > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "Steve Ellington" <n...@carolina.rr.com> > > Sender: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > > Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:32:56 > > To: Tom W8JI<w...@w8ji.com>; <n...@nf4l.com>; <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Low headphone audio level > > > > As far as I'm concerned, all the audio is weak on the K3. Using the same > > speaker, the little IC7000 blows the K3 off the desk. Maybe it's got > > something to do with current drain. The Icom does use considerable more > > power in receive mode and runs pretty hot. The K3's audio is quiet > > adequate > > but just not very loud. > > > > Steve > > N4LQ > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tom W8JI" <w...@w8ji.com> > > To: <n...@nf4l.com>; <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 9:16 AM > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Low headphone audio level > > > > > >>>> We sort of got sidetracked from the original posters remarks. It's > >>>> about > >>>> low > >>>> headphone level on the K3. If the level were a bit higher there would > >>>> be > >>>> no > >>>> need to plug the headphones into the speaker jack. Similarly each pair > >>>> of > >>>> headphones you grab seems to have a different level. I have 3 > different > >>>> headphones and don't intend to buy a forth. Naturally the one that is > >>>> the > >>>> most comfortable is also the one with the lowest level. And I > >>>> understand > >>>> that most people don't seem to have this problem. It might be better > >>>> hearing > >>>> or better headphones. > >> > >> A good audio line with lots of volume headroom is everything. I can't > >> imagine spending so much time on everything else in the station and then > >> not > >> spending any time on something used and changed all the time like the > >> audio > >> output lines. > >> > >> I have never liked nor used the headphone jacks in anything from my > >> boatanchors up through my FT1000's of all flavors and the K3. I've never > >> found them suitable or flexible enough for my tastes. > >> > >> I always run the speaker line out to a switching system, and I terminate > >> that line in a load safe for the radio. Then I bridge off that line with > >> either a good big speaker and audio amp, or headphones. > >> > >> I have virtually no problems at all with any headphone bridging across > >> the > >> speaker output lines of any radio, and I can bridge multiple headsets at > >> once. > >> > >> The toughest thing for me is to get guest ops to stop using the > headphone > >> jacks on receivers and transceivers, and to use the desk mounted jacks. > >> > >> http://www.w8ji.com/cables_and_wiring.htm > >> > >> I have to finish that page some day. :-) > >> > >> 73 Tom > >> > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679 For everything else there's Mastercard!!! ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html