On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 08:01:02 -0500 Eric Gorr wrote:

In a recent conversation with an IRV supporter I asked the question:

 What cases would you accept as failure of IRV?

They answered:

 Where the general public (or a significant fraction of it) failed to
 accept the results as legitimate, or at least beyond question.  The
 2000 and 2004 Presidential elections are examples of failed elections.
 San Franciso's election was heralded as a success.

They also believe that IRV has never failed to produce a fully satisfactory result. Can anyone provide evidence to the contrary?

Try this one, given general knowledge that:

     A is MUCH more popular than B, and
     C is seen by MANY A backers as a coming replacement for A, so vote is:
          33 C>A
          32 A
          35 B
We are right on the edge:
     B wins, with A nearly twice as popular.
     Let C gain 3 more votes among As, and C wins.
     Let C lose two of its votes among As, and A wins.

If these voters do not realize they should hold a riot when IRV fails to award A the deserved win, they do not deserve to be holding elections.

Agreed this is a simulation rather than a real election, but it is simple enough that it could easily happen.
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