James G-A,
You wrote (Thur.May 26):

Yes, CDTT seems like one interesting way to bring IRV toward
Smith-efficiency. CWO-IRV is another, in my opinion.

I'm strongly opposed to CWO (Candidate Withdrawal Option). If such a thing were proposed in Australia or (I am sure) the UK, it would be strongly opposed by people mindful of the principles of constitutional democracy (and many others) as an attempt by "politicians"/political parties to usurp the sovereignty of the voters.

CDTT,IRV looks like my July 26 UMID,IRV proposal.

Based on various precedents, when I refer to the name of some compound of two methods (or a "social choice function" like CDTT and a method), separating the two with a comma means to use the second to order the candidates and the first to pick the highest-ordered that is a winner of the first method.

Separating them with a double forward-slash on the other hand means to use the first to eliminate some candidates, and then proceed with the second with those eliminated candidates dropped from the ballots to pick the winner from those remaining. So in my book (while "UMID" is the same as CDTT) your proposal was UMID//IRV, not "UMID,IRV".

As I explained in an earlier message, this difference causes UMID//IRV (or CDTT//IRV) to fail Mono-add-Plump and Mono-append.


Chris Benham
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