At 05:53 PM 6/15/2005, Araucaria Araucana wrote:
Approval voting is a reasonable first step.  But what do you do about
current top-two runoffs, or primaries in general?

In the U.S. top-two runoffs are unusual, if I am correct, most elections award victory to the plurality winner. We've been complacent about it, I think, because usually the winner does gain a majority, or is only a little short of a majority. But the conditions here strongly discourage third parties.

Primaries are a natural consequence of the party system. What is a little weird to me is that primaries have become publicly regulated elections. It used to be that political parties chose candidates based on a deliberative process, but the primary system has tended to create a situation where the party candidate is decided, through primaries, prior to the convention. The down side of the deliberative process is that much of it took place behind closed doors. But deliberative process, if it is open, is one way to move beyond the limitations of election methods. A primary process can fail to produce a good compromise candidate, one able to draw significant numbers of voters from the opposing party in addition to independent voters. Instead, primaries, I'd think -- I certainly don't consider myself expert on practical politics -- would in general tend to choose a candidate, if voters vote sincerely, near the middle of the party, not near the middle of the political spectrum.

It is center-squeeze prior to the actual election.

(The irreducible problem is that solutions like IRV try to create a virtual runoff to simulate a real runoff. But a real runoff is like a new election, and voters in that new election have more information. Asking them to vote the runoff in advance is asking them to *imagine* an inner process in advance of actually being faced with it. In a real runoff, voters might pay much more attention to a candidate than they paid during the initial election process, they will almost certainly learn more about the two candidates remaining than they previously knew. A real runoff is closer to a deliberative process than any single election method could provide (except for the delegable proxy process which I've described, which is coming from left field; it is, in itself, really a deliberative process instead of an election method.)

Most of the highly-regarded single-winner methods discussed here
involve eliminating the primary in addition to changing the ballot and
tally methods.

My own proposals, of course, involve organizing the electorate itself in an overall structure that is nonpartisan. A subset of the electorate could use the process, to be sure, and this is likely to happen sooner than any overall organization. My theory is that once one party adopts a Free Association/Delegable Proxy structure, it will be so phenomenally successful that it will attract imitation. And FAs have this characteristic: they readily merge. All it takes, really, is a few cross-organization members. While FAs can restrict membership through their membership definition, it is difficult to enforce, and, in fact, broader membership is positively useful. By the nature of the structure, it's impossible to effectively pack the organization, because, not only can FAs merge easily, they can also split easily; indeed the DP structure automatically organizes the overall structure into caucuses, which are completely free to act independently.

The would-be packers could end up talking to themselves, and to others who know exactly what they are, and there is no central treasury or authority to co-opt. Even domain names are not terribly important, for all members in the proxy tree will have the necessary email addresses to reconstruct the organization if something serious happens. (They only have to have the addresses of their own proxy, plus the addresses of all those who have chosen them. But usually, I think, they will have more than that, caucuses or the "families" of high-level proxies will probably have their own mailing lists, even though many or most members may be on no-mail status. The basic definition of membership is the provision of contact information, and the next level, naming a proxy, cements the contactability.)

Once such a structure is in place, with many or most voters as members (and in an FA/DP structure, membership involves a minimum of effort; but it also allows each member to put in as much as they choose, efficiently), a process becomes possible whereby a recommended candidate can emerge. This candidate might be the candidate of an existing party, or he or she might be a dark horse. When the FA/DP organization is relatively small, it would probably decide to recommend existing candidates, recommending its own would probably be considered counterproductive.

The FA character of the organization implies that if it can find an internal consensus, it can act with great power, because FA/DP is trustworthy by design. If it cannot find some level of consensus, it can act simply to support existing parties; its overall effect is relatively neutral -- for FAs don't take, as an organization, positions of controversy. Rather, they simply report the results of polls taken after discussion, debate, and negotiation. The results, and the reasons for it, are taken back to the members through media, probably, but *also* through the personal contact afforded by the proxies. Each member, in the end, will likely be contacted in support of the caucus to which the proxy belongs, by the proxy, who was chosen by the member as trustworthy. The ultimate power remains with the members, who can then make financial contributions, volunteer themselves as political workers, and vote, all according to their capacities. The function of the FA/DP organization is to coordinate all this.

FAs have a motivation to find consensus, because if they can, they can act with high influence. If they can't, they still act, but mostly to delineate the issues rather than to decide them.

The FA/DP concept involves making an end run around existing political structures. It does not oppose them; instead it *uses* them, and theoretically it should make them tractable. The FA/DP concept came out of my own frustration with the existing difficulty of getting ideas to a point where they can either be implemented or known or demonstrated to be ineffective or harmful. The ironic thing is that if FA/DP existed, it would be easy to bring it (i.e., something new) into existence -- or, alternatively, to at least know *why* it was not going to come into existence. There are a number of election methods that are clearly superior to what is in standard use in the U.S. The simplest is Approval through the allowing of overvotes. But I think that readers here will agree that getting even a very simple reform accomplished can be a major task. Why? Shouldn't we have a society that is *eager* to consider new ideas and to find ways to test if they would work or not? I'm not recommending or seeking drastic change. Just the development of an intelligent process for considering it. Or, equally well, for acting to preserve what is good about what we have.

But we won't really know until it is tried. That's what I'm mostly working on, that is, on developing the structural technology through as wide a discussion as possible, and encouraging and providing resources to organizations that want to try it. It is possible that some large organization would, so to speak, see the light, but it is relatively unlikely. Existing power structures act to preserve themselves, I've seen it many, many times. Even very well motivated, charitable structures. People generally believe that they have a better understanding than most other people. It can't always be true! But if a person who so believes ends up with a position of inequitable power, they will see changes that remove this power from them as being threats to all that is wise and good. And so they will act to stop the changes. And, by definition, they are in a position of inequitable power, so they will tend to be effective in stopping the change.

All-or-nothing assignment of electoral votes in the U.S. is an example of a clearly inequitable system (with only the weakest of rationalizations being given for it) that was probably not anticipated by the founders. But because it always favors the majority party in each state, state by state, it is preserved, for that party has the power to prevent change. Oddly, most people focus on the college itself as being the problem, not realizing that the problem is not the delegation of voting power -- that was actually an advanced idea, and it still is -- but the deprivation of the minority of representation on the college.... and, in addition, the defacto stripping of power from the delegates through promised votes, destroying, with rare exceptions in U.S. history, the deliberative character of the college.

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