I mentioned this argument a long time ago, but it's time to repeat it for Don: Howabout we have a rank-balloting election for President, and we'll count the ballots in 2 ways: Condorcet's method, & IRO. Then, we'll hold a 2nd balloting, between the winner by Condorcet's method & the winner by IRO. In other words, we'll let the people choose which winner is the President that they want. You don't object to letting the people choose, do you? Guess which one would win :-) Mike --
