Joe says:
When it comes to bias, there are many different kinds of bias that one might talk about and differing ways to measure that bias. Calling something "bias free" does not shed extra light without more insights. I reply: What kind of insights does Joe want? I provided a definition of bias, and pointed out that it's the definition that no one would disagree with. But of course I invite Joe to disagree with it if he wants to. Joe says that there are many different kinds of bias that one might talk about, but Joe forgot to talk about any of them. So, Joe, wouild you be willing to name at least one different kind of bias, and tell why it justifies giving the largest states (as defined in my most recent post) more s/q than the smallest states? As for how to measure the bias empiricallly, of course that question has to be postponed till after a bias definiltion has been agreed-upon. What Joe has been saying, all along, about bias seems to be, "Bias is so difficult to define, so many different competing definitions for it that we should throw up our hands and disregard it, and concentrate instead on something else like transfer properties (and give Hill a free pass on its bias). Mike Ossipoff ---- election-methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info
