Some of the most unassailable definitions result from criticism from mathematicians. So I certainly don’t object to Joe’s criticism about how I define bias. I welcome anyone to point out flaws, deficiencies, ambiguities, or possible problem situations, because only by finding and fixing those things can a definition be perfected.

I’m not satisfied with my definition in its present form. If the complexity that Joe mentioned refers to the job of finding airtight wording, then yes that can be a task. But it would be another thing to say that a good bias definition couldn’t be written. And, though there are obviously many different ways the definition, via the approach that I’m using, could be worded, those are not mutually contradictory definitions, but are only different wordings of the same definition.

I’m new to the task of finding airtight or precise wording for a bias definition, and I don’t object to criticism of proposed definitions.

Maybe something simple:

A method is biased if (and to the extent that), when that method is used, larger states consistently have more (or consistently have fewer) seats per quota than do smaller states.

[end of simple bias definition]

That’s what bias means to all of us, and maybe it’s enough as a definition.

My more elaborately-worded definition that I’ve mentioned is more in the nature of a test. Maybe there’s a place for such a test, in addition to the simple definition above.

But the test that I described in previous postings doesn’t seem specific enough . Too many quantities are allowed to vary. For simplicity, as many quantities as possible should be fixed. And the manner in which a variable quantity can vary should be fully spelled-out. As for the fixed quantities, and initial values of variable quantities,, I chose numbers equal to those of the U.S.

Maybe something  like:

This specifies a bias-test, for use when one party (person or group of people) wants to find bias, and another party wants to find no bias. Or when one party wants to show one method less biased than another, and the other party wants to show the opposite.

In this test there are initially 435 seats in the House. States can have anywhere from 0 to 52 Hare quotas of population. There are initially 50 states.

The small states are those with from 0 to 26 Hare quotas. The large states are those with from 26 to 52 Hare quotas.

The state-sizes, as measured by Hare quotas, are randomly chosen, and those random state-sizes could have any probability distribution agreed upon by the two parties. For instance the distribution could be uniform, or could be of the form B*exp(-A*q), where A & B are positive constants., or it could be some other approximation of the distribution in the actual U.S.

Or, of course, it could be any distribution agreed-upon by the two parties as the distribution for which they want to do the bias test.

Given the above constraints, either party may increase the total number of states (which automatically increases the population), while proportionately increasing the house-size. And/or either party could increase the number of apportionments with randomly-chosen state-sizes. Either party may make these quantities as large as they want to, in an attempt to cause the test result to go the way they would like.

The method is unbiased if, when it is applied in this test, the ratio between the average s/q of the large states and the average s/q of the small states can be made as close to 1 as desired, by sufficiently increasing the number of states and, proportionately the house-size; &/or increasing the number of apportionments done with randomly-chosen state-sizes. Method A is less biased than method B if sufficiently increasing those quantities will make the abovementioned ratio closer to 1 for method A than for method B.

[end of suggested bias-test]

Cycle-Webster and Adjusted-Rounding make each cycle’s average s/q as close to 1 as possible, differing from 1 by a small random amount that would cancel and be less important as the variable quantities in the test are increased. I suggest that Cycle-Webster and Adjusted-Rounding are unbiased according to this test. Bias-Free, when tested with a uniform probability distribution, is likewise unbiased , by this test, for the same reason.


Mike Ossipoff


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