On Mar 17, 2007, at 8:02 , Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:

Asset Voting simply uses this; it assumes that if we would vote for someone for the office, we would trust that person to choose reasonably well a replacement for himself or herself if he or she is unable to serve for whatever reason. If actually elected, this is really what is going to happen with respect to much that is covered under the duties of high office.

And given that voting under Asset becomes totally free of the need for strategic considerations: just vote for the candidate you most trust! -- I should be able to focus entirely on candidate qualifications.

One could also say that Asset voting is not free of the need for strategic considerations but that the strategic considerations get so complex that the the votes could as well forget them. I mean that as a voter I might be thinking that I know candidate A quite well and he would probably behave in a certain way when participating the further negotiations and elections, and therefore it would be strategically optimal to vote for him. But as said, this may be too complex to manage.

Given, again, that there is no need that the "candidate" actually be elected or electable, I can choose a candidate whom I personally know. I expect the numbers of candidates to blossom if Asset is adopted. And the result will be much closer to what a hiring search would produce.

Many points in your mail dealt with knowing the candidates personally. If we want this property, the basic model in my mind is to arrange more levels in the representational system.

Let's start from a village of 100 inhabitants. Everyone knows most of the other inhabitants quite well. The village elects 5 of the inhabitants to represent the village in communication towards he external world.

Then 20 villages send all their 5 representatives to a town meeting. All 100 meeting participants know each others reasonably well since this group has made decisions together many times before. The meeting elects 5 of the participants to represent the town in communication towards the external world.

Then 20 towns form a region. Now we already cover a population of 40'000. The next level covers population of 800'000. Then 16'000'000, 320'000'000 and 6'400'000'000. And finally we have 5 persons that could represent the earth in communication with other civilizations, if needed.

One key positive thing in this scenario is that the representatives are always in direct contact with the people who elected them and therefore need to be able to explain to them at personal level the rationale behind whatever decisions or negotiations they work with. One key negative thing in this scenario is that the direct responsibility may fade away when the distance from the village people to the top level decision makers increases. It is e.g. possible that the people at the top consider themselves to be more clever and more important than the people that elected them, they may consider their closest colleagues and direct electors more important than those at the lower levels.

Clearly there is a tradeoff between knowing your nearest representatives at personal level, and electing your top level representatives directly but knowing them only via TV. To me the additional layer of representatives and negotiations that you discussed represents in some sense adding one step in this hierarchy.

Direct democracy has some benefits and the model above has some. Same with weaknesses.

Juho



                
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