Chris had said:

> I'd be interested in seeing an example of MD failure that you agree (or
> are
> content) with.
>

> I replied:
:
>
> I’d agree and be content with an example that doesn’t violate SFC or
> SDSC.


Kevin then said:

Here is such an example. Suppose these are the sincere preferences:

49 A
51 B>C

Suppose that on the following cast ballots, A wins:

49 A
51 B

This shows an MD failure. It doesn't show an SFC failure, since those
voters preferring B to A are not voting sincerely (they aren't voting
the C preference).

Then suppose that on the following cast ballots, B wins:

49 A
51 B>C

This shows that in the previous scenario, there was no SDSC failure,
since the B voters could have voted in a different way in order to
make A lose.

I reply:

But I don' t know if I'd really call that an example, since it doesn't show how some particular method could do that.

Anyway, when I said I'd agree and be content if SFC and SDSC aren't violated, I didn't mean that I was looking for a Minimal Defense failure that didn't fail those two criteria. I merely meant that I evaluate methods by SFC & SDSC, rather than by Minimal Defense.

Mike Ossipoff


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