On Jan 11, 2008, at 6:04 , daniel radetsky wrote:

On Jan 10, 2008 7:46 PM, Kevin Venzke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I doubt there's good reason to be optimistic about getting around
many of these incompatibilities by changing the ballot type.

I think you're out to lunch. Cardinal ballot methods get around Arrow and Gibbard, which had been interpreted as meaning "No voting method is fair." If that's not a good reason to be optimistic, I don't know what could be.

I think Arrow initially sudied social preference ordering. Loops (e.g. A>B, B>C, C>A) in the social preference ordering are independent of the voting methods, and they exist in the background and may impact voting behaviour in all methods.

I don't know exactly what your targets are and how good (/"perfect") the method should be but although cardinal methods have some interesting characteristics my guess is that they will not offer any clear shortcuts.

Juho



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