I don't see how IRV's failure to elect the Condorcet candidate is necessarily linked to its "non-monotonicity". There are monotonic (meets mono-raise) methods that fail Condorcet, and some Condorcet methods that fail mono-raise.

(For information: I think Bucklin would be an example of the former, and one of the Borda-elimination methods be an example of the latter.)

I think Smith (or Shwartz),IRV is quite a good Condorcet method. It completely fixes the failure of Condorcet while being more complicated
> (to explain and at least sometimes to count) than plain IRV, and a Mutual
> Dominant Third candidate can't be successfully buried.
But it fails Later-no-Harm and Later-no-Help, is vulnerable to Burying strategy, fails mono-add-top, and keeps IRV's failure of mono-raise
> and (related) vulnerability to Pushover strategy.

At the risk of taking this thread away from its original topic, I wonder what you think of Smith,X or Schwartz,X where X is one of the methods Woodall says he prefers to IRV - namely QTLD, DAC, or DSC.

(Since QLTD is not an elimination method, it would go like this: first generate a social ordering. Then check if the ones ranked first to last have a Condorcet winner among themselves. If not, check if the ones ranked first to (last less one), and so on. As soon as there is a CW within the subset examined, he wins. Schwartz,QLTD would be the same but "has a Schwartz set of just one member" instead of "has a CW".)

DAC and DSC only satisfy one of LNHelp/LNHarm, but they're monotonic in return. According to Woodall, you can't have all of LNHelp, LNHarm, and monotonicity, so in that respect, it's as good as you're going to get. I don't know if those set methods are vulnerable to burying, though, or if they preserve Mutual Dominant Third.

Then again, satisfying one of the LNHs may not matter since combining it with Condorcet in that manner makes the combination fail both LNHs. Combining a method that satisfies LNHarm with CDTT gives something that still satisfies LNHarm, but the result fails Plurality, and that's not good either... and the Condorcet method of Simmons (what we might call "First preference Copeland") resists burial very well, but it isn't cloneproof.
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