On Jul 17, 2008, at 18:38 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I can see three different local/personal representation concepts here. (just to clarify my thoughts, and maybe help some others too)

I think a better way of breaking down those options would be based on the how the seats are allocated. The whole regional/national/district issue is separate. Ofc, for single seaters, it has to be district based.

The main issue is the party list vs PR-STV question.

My naming of the three concepts was quite confusing. Another way to name them is 1) direct and and known official link between the representative and a set of voters, 2) regional proportionality and 3) personally selected representative (typically secret, known only by the voter).

I left political/ideological/party proportionality out for the most part and focused only on the regional proportionality and established links between the voter and the representative.

The problem is that a party list system breaks
the link between the candidate and the elected member. Party members must remain loyal to the
party as the party has all the power.

(Diego Santos already noted that open lists keep some clear links between the voters and the candidates.)

However, even if you didn't vote for him. He will still likely try to help you.

Yes. In some set-ups one could considered it to be a benefit of the system not to have a fixed/known relationship between the voters and representatives.

....STV-PR...
larger parties not wanting to
increase the average number of seats per district.

This sounds like an intentional threshold (implemented using small size districts).

Juho



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