Extended now to EM - I should have started this in both.
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:40:58 -0000 Bruce R. Gilson wrote:
--- In [email protected], Dave Ketchum <da...@...> wrote:
We need to sort thru the possibilities of going with Condorcet. I
claim:
Method must be open - starting with the N*N matrix being available
to anyone who wants to check and review in detail.
If the matrix shows a CW, that CW better get to win.
Cycle resolution also better be simple to do. We need to debate
what we document and do here such as basing our work on margins or
vote counts.
Yes. My biggest gripe with Condorcet is that cycle resolution in many
systems is so complex that it does not seem that a typical voter (as
opposed to people like us who are personally interested in electoral
systems) could understand what is being done.
Tossing a coin seems good for resolving true ties - and candidates
involved should have right to verify such got done.
BTW, fact that we are doing a tournament is worth bragging about.
I am against runoffs. Plurality needs them because its voters
cannot completely express their desires; Condorcet permits more
complete stating of desires via ranking.
I totally agree. Abd-el-Rahman Lomax quickly lost me with his
incessant calls for runoffs, and even runoffs with write-ins
permitted, so that an ordinary voter is going to have to come out and
vote over and over again. Once is enough, I think. (Actually even so
it's twice, as we would need primaries in any system, whether
plurality or Condorcet.)
Primaries are worth more thought:
Parties preparing for Plurality elections desperately need something, such
as primaries, to protect their backers from splitting their votes.
Condorcet has no such need since voters are each allowed to vote for more
than one of its candidates at the major election. Note that parties may
have their own other reasons for doing primaries.
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