a range voting list? It started as such, but where do you draw a proper fence around the edges? Management of this list has been quite tolerant.

I have this same thread on Election-methods, and this post will go to both.

Range vs Condorcet?
Range voters rate candidates, and difference in a voter's rating of two such shows strength of relative approval. Sum of all these rating differences shows strength of A>B or B>A. Condorcet voters rank each pair as A>B or B>A or (A=B if neither is ranked over the other). Count of rankings decides winner.
     I see each as having merit, but prefer Condorcet.

I mentioned IRV in a side discussion where I was responding to a suggestion that Plurality would properly resolve Condorcet cycles. I offered IRV as better than Plurality for this purpose, WITHOUT agreeing that IRV would be good for this purpose.

On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:50:05 -0500 (EST) Dale Sheldon wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Dave Ketchum wrote:


Condorcet/IRV would make a better pair since the voters would do the same
ranking for both, and IRV would, usually, pick the CW when such exists.


Just so we're clear, you mean:

* Elect the Condorcet winner, if one exist.

* If one does not exist, elect the IRV winner (presumably from among the set of leading candidates tied into the cycle, i.e., the Smith set).


Anyway, trying for a better method (the proper goal) would start with ranked voting


Apologies if this has been covered recently (I did just join the list earlier this week, and tried to read back a reasonable time frame, but I may have missed something vital), but what is your basis for this assumption? Why is range voting (I thought this was a range voting list :) being discarded out of hand?


Probably not possible to find a uniquely best cycle resolution


It is, infact, provably impossible.

Huh?  Certainly there are rejects and lemons, but what prevents having a best?
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