This shows that, for a few elections, we need extra capability.

Many of these voters should be ready to learn ranked choice voting in order to vote for more than one and show preference they see as to Good over Soso.

We are hopefully agreeing that we need better counting than IRV provides.

Which leads us to Condorcet, which cares not the election's purpose - primary here.

For just one oddity election such as this ballots could be laid out manually. Counting could also be manual, counting how many of each pattern voted.

I would still do an N*N matrix but, assuming 22 voted A>B that would mean adding 22 to each of the proper entries for A & B, rather than adding ones for each such ballot.

"Median" does not excite me here - this gives all the voters a chance to be heard as they express themselves in detail, so why do we not declare the results to be our found median?

When we are plotting how to do general elections the major parties plot for advantages - here there could be more readiness to try for best.

Dave Ketchum
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On Aug 25, 2010, at 4:41 PM, Kristofer Munsterhjelm wrote:

robert bristow-johnson wrote:
we have a legitimate cliff-hanger here in Vermont with the Democrat gubernatorial primary. 5 candidates, 4 that were all viable, 3 that are within 1% and the top 2 that are within 0.1%. i wonder how close this would have been if there was something better than FPTP. it was a fascinating experience being a fly on the wall at one of the campaigns.
now to pull on my Doug Racine T-shirt and go to the "unity rally".

Ideally (that is notwithstanding internal bureaucracy and similar effects), a party would adopt a ranked voting method if it would benefit them. If the "outer" ballot is also ranked and picks the median voter's candidate, then that would happen if the old voting method elects candidates that are further away from the median voter (of the electorate in general) than is the case for the new voting method.

However, there are a number of caveats in the real world. First, the outer method does not have that quality, as it's not Condorcet (nor even ranked any more). Second, we can't just throw away the "similar effects" mentioned above, as they may be significant. Third, the primary is not open and so even if a good ranked method were used, it would elect the candidate closest to the party's median, not that of the electorate in general.

As for why the parties don't use a ranked ballot, they may not even know about it. Still, one may wonder...
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