Good Afternoon, Mr. Quinn

On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 @ 07:25:31 you cited a portion of Michael Allan's Sun, 28 Aug 2011 @ 23:24:48 post to me, to wit:

  "...  But if we (this is my hope) can cogently demonstrate this
   failing to the experts in this list, especially in terms of
   the voting mechanisms they understand so well, then they will
   be more open to drawing the larger conclusions that seem so
   obvious to you and me, and I daresay others in this list."

and offered this comment:

  "I've been trying to avoid entering this sub-thread, as I think
   it's mostly angels-on-pinheads stuff, but if you actually have
   a point, I suggest you make it, rather than portentiously
   musing on how it depends on a supposedly-proven, but still-
   debated claim."

Current events on this list should make the point adequately:

Richard Fobes proposed a 'Declaration of Election-Method Experts and Enthusiasts'. Everyone on the list can participate in honing the declaration, to the full extent of their desire and ability. That's the democratic approach.

If, instead, groups of elites proposed versions of the declaration and told list members to choose between them, that would be profoundly undemocratic. That's the party-based approach.

I believe (and I think Michael shares this view) an electoral method that embodies the concept of the former, giving every member of the electorate an opportunity to participate in the electoral process to the full extent of their desire and ability, is possible, practical and necessary.

Fred Gohlke


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