2011/8/31 Fred Gohlke <[email protected]> > Good Afternoon, Mr. Quinn > > On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 @ 07:25:31 you cited a portion of Michael Allan's Sun, > 28 Aug 2011 @ 23:24:48 post to me, to wit: > > > "... But if we (this is my hope) can cogently demonstrate this > failing to the experts in this list, especially in terms of > the voting mechanisms they understand so well, then they will > be more open to drawing the larger conclusions that seem so > obvious to you and me, and I daresay others in this list." > > and offered this comment: > > > "I've been trying to avoid entering this sub-thread, as I think > it's mostly angels-on-pinheads stuff, but if you actually have > a point, I suggest you make it, rather than portentiously > musing on how it depends on a supposedly-proven, but still- > debated claim." > > Current events on this list should make the point adequately: > > Richard Fobes proposed a 'Declaration of Election-Method Experts and > Enthusiasts'. Everyone on the list can participate in honing the > declaration, to the full extent of their desire and ability. That's the > democratic approach. > > If, instead, groups of elites proposed versions of the declaration and told > list members to choose between them, that would be profoundly undemocratic. > That's the party-based approach. > > I believe (and I think Michael shares this view) an electoral method that > embodies the concept of the former, giving every member of the electorate an > opportunity to participate in the electoral process to the full extent of > their desire and ability, is possible, practical and necessary.
First, thank you for responding, I finally understand what you are getting at. Second, I agree. But I do not think that you can thereby conclude that any method which does not reach all those goals is thereby useless. In fact, I think that such imperfect methods are necessary stepping stones to your vision. JQ > > > Fred Gohlke > > > ---- > Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info >
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