2012/2/3 Ted Stern <[email protected]> > On 03 Feb 2012 16:07:59 -0800, Kevin Venzke wrote: > > > > Personally I don't understand why one would want to spend time on a > > method that you have to defend by saying "it might work anyway," > > even if as built the incentives are wrong. > > > > I like the idea of being able to test things, so I may be biased here. > > > > It's taking a shot in the dark. How fantastic must this method be, > > for that to seem like a good idea? It's hard to believe one couldn't > > go back and work out something that more reliably does whatever you > > were going for. > > > > Also, if MJ is a serious proposal it should be called "median > > rating" and use the Bucklin tiebreaker. You'd have a name that means > > something and a tiebreaker that isn't a pain to solve. At the top > > rating (the one we all agree might matter) the rules aren't even > > different. > > Can anyone explain how Majority Judgment differs in practice from > Bucklin with equal ratings allowed? AKA Fallback Approval? Or > one of the many versions of Majority Choice Approval (another vague > name, IMO)? >
In practice? Not at all. Except there's a book about it. > > > The name is so bad. Imagine you hear that on the news and are trying > > to figure out what it means. "Majority" doesn't tell you that much > > (IRV already does majorities and they didn't even need to put it in > > the name) and "judgment" refers to what? The voting. They're calling > > it "judgment" though. Puke. So dramatic and it doesn't even say > > anything. > > > > The tie-breaker is the same thing really. It sounds neat and fair to > > pull out median votes one by one, but in practice that isn't the > > methodology, you really should use math. Try coding MJ and then see > > how much code you could delete, how much less thought it would've > > taken you, if you just wanted the Bucklin tiebreaker instead. > > > > And you can delete even more code if it is just ER-Bucklin. > Yup. But most voters don't worry about lines of code. JQ > > Ted > -- > araucaria dot araucana at gmail dot com > > ---- > Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info >
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