On 04/13/2012 09:11 PM, ⸘Ŭalabio‽ wrote:
¡Hello!

¿How fare you?

I have had interactions with people on this list hating rated
ballots.  I have a question for them:

If the ballot would allow both ratings and rankings, ¿would that be
acceptable?

The ballot could allow ranking or ratings with equal rankings or
ratings allowed.  The rankings would then be converted to ratings
like thus:

[snip]

¿Would this be acceptable?

No, I don't think so. That is essentially a weighted positional system, and those are not very good at all. Every weighted positional system except Plurality fails the Majority criterion (unless you count DAC and DSC as weighted positional systems). No weighted positional system can satisfy the Condorcet criterion. Nor can they satisfy mutual majority (again, unless DAC and DSC count).

As soon as you make it a ranked method, the ranked method has to prove its worth in comparison to other ranked methods. Weighted positional systems are not very good at doing that as a class -- unless you absolutely have to have certain criteria (like FBC for Antiplurality).

More fundamentally, as Robert points out, people who dislike rating don't just dislike rating because they have some grudge against numbers. Robert dislikes rating - or rather, Score/Range - because it forces him to be strategic and because it's not clear how much he should rate someone even if he had been honest.

If you convert rankings to ratings like you suggest, then anybody who ranks gets that choice made for them. The ratings are preset; but the prospective voter *knows* that he could pick more freely if he rated instead of ranked. So the choice is no choice at all.

If you're going to reduce, reduce rating to ranking instead. Use cardinal weighted pairwise or approval weighted pairwise.

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