On 12/9/2012 9:12 AM, Jameson Quinn wrote:
> ...
> 2012/12/8 ⸘Ŭalabio‽ <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> ...
>              ¡That is so last week!  I wish to find a way to merge
>     Score-Voting and Majority-Judgement into something even better.
>
> In order to find something better, we would at least need to know what's
> wrong with what we have. There seems to be a lot of disagreement about
> that point; smart people can't agree on whether Score or MJ is better.
> So I think research is in order before we tear off and design 15 new
> systems.

As I see it:

* Advantage of Majority-Judgement (MJ): Makes it (relatively compared to score and approval methods) more difficult to vote strategically.

* Advantage of score ballots: Collect the greatest amount of information from the voter.

Combining those two advantages could yield a better method. I encourage Ŭalabio to explore that possibility.

Yet I would recommend adding yet another advantage, namely the ability to fully rank all the choices. As I've said before, credibility for the correctness of the most popular choice is undermined if the method cannot also identify the second-most popular choice, and so on down to the least-popular choice.

Richard Fobes



On 12/9/2012 9:12 AM, Jameson Quinn wrote:


2012/12/8 ⸘Ŭalabio‽ <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>

             2012:12-08T08:30:24Z, Kristofer Munsterhjelm:

     >       On 12/08/2012 06:19 AM, ⸘Ŭalabio‽ wrote:

     >>      1.

     >>      This is my preferred range:

     >>      Negative -99 to positive +99

     >       The ponies already objected to your preferred range, and I
    think their objection has validity. If they find it too hard to find
    the right rating between -99 and +99, then they'll consider the
    method bad however you put it. Again, RBJ has voiced the same point
    here on the list: "Range asks for too much, Approval asks for too
    little".

             ¡That is so last week!  I wish to find a way to merge
    Score-Voting and Majority-Judgement into something even better.

In order to find something better, we would at least need to know what's
wrong with what we have. There seems to be a lot of disagreement about
that point; smart people can't agree on whether Score or MJ is better.
So I think research is in order before we tear off and design 15 new
systems.

Jameson



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