At 02:42 PM 6/18/2013, Jameson Quinn wrote:
New running tally, including Andy Jennings's latest votes (which went out on only one of the lists). Current voting tallies in parentheses, ordered JQ/AL/RB/AJ/DSH/BG/BRG. Options have been placed in descending order, which I expect to be stable from here on.

Abd: please vote on MAV, MSV, CAV, AAV, and CSV.

My votes are the second in each list.

Majority Approval Voting: (A/B/C/A/A/D/B) Median: B, votes above: 3. PROBABLE WINNER.

Additive Approval Voting: (B/C/B/C/B/E/B) Median: B, votes above: 0

Descending Approval Threshold Voting: (A/B-/B/C/C/F/A) Median B-; votes above B, 2.

Cumulative Approval Voting: (A/C/B/C/D/A/F) Median C; votes above: 3
Majority Support Voting: (B/D/C/A/C/D/B) Median C; votes above: 3

Instant Runoff Approval Voting: (B/A/F/C/F/F/C) Median C; votes above: 2
Cumulative Support Voting: (A/C/B/C/F/C/F) Median C; votes above: 2

I am happy with how this went. There are still details we haven't come to consensus on — such as the numbers of and labels for rating categories — but I am comfortable with leaving those unspecified, and allowing each advocate to specify them if they want to.

Abd: I understand that you favor the "runoff" terminology. However, the IRAV proposal lost convincingly. If you have any further issues to discuss, please pose them (along with your votes as requested above).

Well, I could have shifted the DAT vote to tie with MAV.... However, the particular system is DAT with a backup as needed to avoid a multiple majority. MAV represents that. I'm still uncomfortable with the *method*, i.e., with dumping the principle of preponderance of the votes in the case of a multiple majority, and we have seen inadequate discussion of that./

I would happily have submitted to the majority here on even a name I didn't personally like.

I hope that, at least on these lists, we can begin to come together to use MAV as the representative Bucklin proposal, and stop pushing our own individual variants like "GMJ" or "ER-Bucklin".

I can appreciate the intention, but not the push. The Approval Voting consensus arose rather naturally, this seems to have been rushed. What's the hurry?

I see a place for using different names in different contexts, and do not see that "one size fits all."

MAV -- I'm happy to use that name for a defined method, and will leave the "grade" issue for later -- sacrifices utility maximization for some increased level of LnH protection. I *do* think it's an interesting idea, but would greatly prefer to resolve the problem with real runoffs, *whenever* the votes show the lack of a clear majority *choice.*

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