Yes, it is now the case that Electric doesn't show these menus if it
thinks the 3D system is missing.
The tricky part about this is that the 64/32 bit installations must
match. I'm not talking about whether or not you are running
32/64-bit Windows 7. What is important is whether or not your Java
installation and your Java3D installation are the same
bit-length. If, for example, you installed a 32-bit Java, then a
64-bit Java3D will not work.
-Steven Rubin
At 01:35 PM 9/21/2011, you wrote:
Sorry, I can't think of what might be wrong =/
I can say I do know Electric removes the 3D menu if Java3D is
incorrectly configured; if it is removed from my path I can't see the
menu option either.
The only other thing I can suggest is checking that Java3D does in
fact work. Is there an application, such as an online applet, you
could check with?
I would also suspect that Java3D is correctly configured, but you
might be running electric incorrectly, i.e. if you changed the
classpath incorrectly...
On Sep 21, 2:06 pm, Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
> My thread got hijacked....
>
> According to "Programs and Features" all versions of Java (6.27) and
> Java3D (1.5.2) are installed.
> (I assume I want the amd-64 version rather than i586? Tried both
> anyway)
> Java itself works OK.
> According to Java3D installation guide, all files and paths are in
> correct format and location.
> Our IT guy went over my installation and can't find anything not
> configured properly.
>
> Electric v8.11 shows 3D options where I expect them on the menus but
> reports "Java3D not available" when I try to activate a 3D view
>
> Electric v9.00 doesn't even have 3D options on the menu.
>
> Does Electric v9.00 not only disable but block the existence of 3D
> menus as well if Java3D not functioning properly?
>
> This here's a government computer (Dell T7500 E5630) so I'm somewhat
> limited in how deep I can access the system.
> Is anybody running Win7 Enterprise-64 and having 3D work? or not?
> If so, can anyone suggest what needs to be configured differently than
> what's been suggested?
>
> This shouldn't be this difficult so I'm sure it's something fairly
> obvious and undocumented - but I can't find it.
> Getting time to get the rubylith out...
>
> I was away for 9 months. Did this group disable loading image files or
> did I forget how?
> I'd load a screen shot of the Window menu of Electric ... no "3D" -
> but it is in Preferences/Display
>
> Dave
>
> On Sep 20, 9:08 pm, Goh Mia Yong Jimmy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi Dave,
> > I'm currently using electric-9.00.jar and have downloaded
j3d-1_5_2-windows-i586.exe fromhttp://java3d.java.net/binary-builds.html
> > From Electric, Window - 3D Window - 3D View and Test Hardware
can be seen.
> > You can try this method.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave
> > Sent: Wednesday, 21 September, 2011 2:19 AM
> > To: Electric VLSI Editor
> > Subject: Re: 3D
>
> > Thanks for replying but I'm having a problem even our IT person
is having trouble with.
>
> > Neither version of Electric 9.00 - electric-9.00.jar and
electricBinary-9.00.jar - have any menu selection regarding "3D"
(including the non-existent "3D Showcase" selection under "Help")
The selection does exist on 8.11 - but Java3D still isn't working
>
> > Library file:/C:/Electric/electricBinary-8.11.jar!/com/sun/electric/
> > tool/user/help/helphtml/floatingGates.jelib read, took 0.023
seconds Checking library 'floatingGates' for repair... library
checked No errors found
=================================2=================================
> > Java3D is not available.
>
> > So I have a problem with the Java3D installation (regular Java
works fine when checked at java.com) and possibly with Electric 9.00
>
> > Followed the instructions with Java3D (j3d-1_5_2-windows-amd64.zip.
> > Also tried j3d-1_5_2-windows-i586.zip).
> > CLASSPATH looks to be structured correctly as does PATH
>
> > The three files are at C:\j3d-jre\lib\ext
>
> > CLASSPATH is
> > .;C:\j3d-jre\lib\ext\j3dcore.jar;C:\j3d-jre\lib\ext\j3dutils.jar;C:
> > \j3d-jre\lib\ext\vecmath.jar
>
> > Path is
> > %SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%SystemRoot%\System32\Wbem;
> > %SYSTEMROOT%\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C:\Program Files
\ActivIdentity\ActivClient\;C:\Program Files (x86)\ActivIdentity
\ActivClient\;C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Roxio Shared
\DLLShared\;C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Roxio Shared
\10.0\DLLShared\;C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Imaging\;C:\Program
Files\jre6\lib\amd64;C:\Program Files (x86)\QuickTime\QTSystem\;
%CDSROOT%\tools\bin;%CDSROOT%\tools\libutil\bin;%CDSROOT%\tools\fet
> > \bin;%CDSROOT%\tools\pcb\bin;%CDSROOT%\tools\specctra\bin;%CDSROOT%
> > \tools\PSpice;%CDSROOT%\tools\PSpice\Library;%CDSROOT%\tools\Capture;
> > %CDSROOT%\OpenAccess\bin\win32\opt
>
> > Tried installing in both C:\Program Files and C:\Program Files (x86).
> > Neither worked
>
> > Anybody see any problems? I don't see anything obvious and
neither did the IT people.
> > Doesn't mean there isn't anything...
>
> > Something's not right; I'll get it figured out - but I didn't
want to leave this message without a Thank You for responding.
> > And maybe someone here has an idea with this current configuration.
>
> > Should be easy. Not like I haven't had it working before...
>
> > Dave
>
> > On Sep 14, 2:54 pm, Felix Schmidt <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Sometimes Java 64-bit doesn't recognize Java 3D (32-bit
version), then you have to install the 64-bit version of Java 3D.
>
> > > Don't worry the 3D view is available if everything is well configured.
>
> > > - felix
>
> > > On Sep 14, 2011, at 8:37 PM, Dave wrote:
>
> > > > Been away from Electric since shortly after release of v9 Dec10.
> > > > Checked this group and saw vno mention of my problem...
>
> > > > Where did "3D" go?
>
> > > > It's there on 8.11 (not working though) and I see it mentioned in
> > > > the
> > > > v9 User's Manual...but I don't see any mention in the tool itself.
> > > > Did I miss something?
>
> > > > Electric v9.00 101210_1219 on a 64-bit Win7 Enterprise machine Java
> > > > 6b27 j3d1.5.2
>
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Dave
>
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