Sergey, That's kind of how I'm leaning. Everyone else, continue to leave feedback and I'll revisit this thread in a bit before clarifying that section of the HIG. On Mar 24, 2013 5:03 AM, "Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff" < ser...@elementaryos.org> wrote:
> I'd use ellipsising only for items that do not instantly accomplish the > advertised action. > For example, "Import to library" in Noise should be ellipsised because it > additionally requires the user to specify the import source. Following this > logic, "Preferences" and "About" should not be ellipsised because they > accomplish the advertised action, i.e. take you to the advertised info or > controls, without any intermediate steps. > > 2013/3/24 Alfredo Hernández <aldomann.desi...@gmail.com> > >> I think that Preferences and About do not need ellipses as their function >> is quite obvious. You perfectly know what to expect when you click those. >> >> Regards, Alfredo. >> On 24 Mar 2013 00:55, "Cassidy James" <cass...@elementaryos.org> wrote: >> >>> Hrm, I thought all of our apps did that for Preferences and About. >>> >>> One thing I've read somewhere (perhaps another platform's HIG?) was more >>> explicit in that if there's not really an action to be performed in the >>> dialog, to not display the ellipsis. In fact, our own HIG are slightly more >>> nuanced than mentioned above; they say to use an ellipsis if an *action >>> is performed *in a new window or dialog. With the about dialog, there's >>> arguably no action being performed. What about with Preferences? >>> >>> I'm up for clarifying these cases in the HIG. Fellow designers, let me >>> know what you think. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Cassidy James >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from *elementary OS* <http://elementaryos.org/>. >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff < >>> ser...@elementaryos.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Okay, so all our apps are buggy and should be fixed? >>>> >>>> Also, what about "About"? >>>> >>>> 2013/3/24 Julien Spautz <spautz.jul...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>>> Actually, the HIG says we should use ellipses for preferences: >>>>> >>>>> · Is performed in a new window or dialog. For example, Preferences, >>>>> Report a Problem, and Customize Toolbar all use ellipses because they open >>>>> a new window… >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://elementaryos.org/docs/human-interface-guidelines/text/using-ellipses >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff < >>>>> ser...@elementaryos.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hey guys, >>>>> >>>>> I've notices Noise doesn't use ellipsising for AppMenu items at all: >>>>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/5279564/noise-appmenu.png >>>>> "Import to Library" requires further input from the user but it >>>>> doesn't have an ellipsis. I believe this is a bug? >>>>> >>>>> I've looked at how other apps use ellipsising and it's mostly >>>>> reasonable. The only thing that bugs me is that "Preferences" and "About" >>>>> items don't have ellipses. I recall Windows just eliipsising whatever >>>>> shows >>>>> a dialog, but common sense suggests it's not a good idea, e.g. for About, >>>>> because it doesn't require any further input from the user. I'm not sure >>>>> about Preferences though. >>>>> >>>>> So what's our rule of thumb for ellipsising? We don't seem to have any >>>>> info on the topic in the HIG. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff >>>>> OS architect @ elementary >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff >>>> OS architect @ elementary >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>>> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >>> > > > -- > Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff > OS architect @ elementary
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