Yep. I think we need to update/clarify that HIG section. Best Regards, Daniel Foré
El mar 24, 2013, a las 7:47 a.m., Cassidy James <cass...@elementaryos.org> escribió: > Sergey, > > That's kind of how I'm leaning. Everyone else, continue to leave feedback and > I'll revisit this thread in a bit before clarifying that section of the HIG. > > On Mar 24, 2013 5:03 AM, "Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff" > <ser...@elementaryos.org> wrote: >> I'd use ellipsising only for items that do not instantly accomplish the >> advertised action. >> For example, "Import to library" in Noise should be ellipsised because it >> additionally requires the user to specify the import source. Following this >> logic, "Preferences" and "About" should not be ellipsised because they >> accomplish the advertised action, i.e. take you to the advertised info or >> controls, without any intermediate steps. >> >> 2013/3/24 Alfredo Hernández <aldomann.desi...@gmail.com> >>> I think that Preferences and About do not need ellipses as their function >>> is quite obvious. You perfectly know what to expect when you click those. >>> >>> Regards, Alfredo. >>> >>> On 24 Mar 2013 00:55, "Cassidy James" <cass...@elementaryos.org> wrote: >>>> Hrm, I thought all of our apps did that for Preferences and About. >>>> >>>> One thing I've read somewhere (perhaps another platform's HIG?) was more >>>> explicit in that if there's not really an action to be performed in the >>>> dialog, to not display the ellipsis. In fact, our own HIG are slightly >>>> more nuanced than mentioned above; they say to use an ellipsis if an >>>> action is performed in a new window or dialog. With the about dialog, >>>> there's arguably no action being performed. What about with Preferences? >>>> >>>> I'm up for clarifying these cases in the HIG. Fellow designers, let me >>>> know what you think. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Cassidy James >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from elementary OS. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff >>>> <ser...@elementaryos.org> wrote: >>>>> Okay, so all our apps are buggy and should be fixed? >>>>> >>>>> Also, what about "About"? >>>>> >>>>> 2013/3/24 Julien Spautz <spautz.jul...@gmail.com> >>>>>> Actually, the HIG says we should use ellipses for preferences: >>>>>> >>>>>> · Is performed in a new window or dialog. For example, Preferences, >>>>>> Report a Problem, and Customize Toolbar all use ellipses because they >>>>>> open a new window… >>>>>> >>>>>> http://elementaryos.org/docs/human-interface-guidelines/text/using-ellipses >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff >>>>>> <ser...@elementaryos.org> wrote: >>>>>>> Hey guys, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've notices Noise doesn't use ellipsising for AppMenu items at all: >>>>>>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/5279564/noise-appmenu.png >>>>>>> "Import to Library" requires further input from the user but it doesn't >>>>>>> have an ellipsis. I believe this is a bug? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've looked at how other apps use ellipsising and it's mostly >>>>>>> reasonable. The only thing that bugs me is that "Preferences" and >>>>>>> "About" items don't have ellipses. I recall Windows just eliipsising >>>>>>> whatever shows a dialog, but common sense suggests it's not a good >>>>>>> idea, e.g. for About, because it doesn't require any further input from >>>>>>> the user. I'm not sure about Preferences though. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So what's our rule of thumb for ellipsising? We don't seem to have any >>>>>>> info on the topic in the HIG. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff >>>>>>> OS architect @ elementary >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff >>>>> OS architect @ elementary >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>>>> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>>> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff >> OS architect @ elementary > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
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