On 10/06/2015 06:00 AM, Mark Wielaard wrote: > On Mon, 2015-10-05 at 11:15 -0700, Josh Stone wrote: >> Note, elfutils does not explicitly enable AM_SILENT_RULES. It's only >> available starting from automake 1.11 > > Note that we already require 1.11 or higher for parallel-tests. > I wouldn't mind if we also just added AM_SILENT_RULES([yes]) by default.
I do prefer silent builds too. You'll probably want to force V=1 for automated builds like rpm though. I leave the default choice to you. >> , but starting from automake 1.13 >> silent rules are always generated, defaulting to verbose. $(AM_V_foo) >> additions should be no-ops on systems that don't support silent rules. > > I like this patch. Just one question, what defines the $(AM_V_foo) > (specifically AM_V_CC and AM_V_CCLD) variables? I only see AM_V_at and > AM_V_GEN described in the automake manual. Are they officially OK to > use? OK to push if they are. Otherwise I think we should define them (or > some renamed version ourselves based on the official AM_V_GEN macro). It's easy to answer "what defines" -- they're set in /usr/bin/automake handle_languages() based on $lang->ccer and $lang->lder, which are names declared in earlier register_language() calls. I have no idea if they're "officially" OK though. It's strange that these aren't documented at all. In practice it should be fine, I think, but if you want to be really careful we can define our own renamed variants.