Dear Mailinglist!
Hello first. This is my first post and but I think it's not gonna be my last 
one.

I read the NavigationTree-Page for the next elisa milestone and I had a few 
idea. Some I would poste here, for others I do an other post to discuss them in 
another thread.

== The Audio/Video-Player and Playlist-System==
        (this comment is against the rev 42 of the NavTree-Page, need to be 
discussed again for 43 I guess)
The audio player and the video player look good for now. But I have one little 
problem: Why shouldn't there be a playlist for the videos as well? I mean, I 
often want to watch some episodes of my favorite TV-Series and there would be 
playlist very usefull.
So why don't mix this both together? Why sperate between audio and video? Why 
not using one playlist for any kind of media (as well for streams and so on)? 
And than only 'switch' between the both player-views.
For e.g. the video player is now called _player_ and the audio player is called 
_playlist_, but both look the same as they do now. The example:
The movie is playing, or the visuals of the audios are shown, now the player 
appears. After a few time this disappears (like it does now also, after 3 or 5 
seconds of inactivity), but if the user pushs the menu-button before, the 
playlist appears. There the user could make his changes (while the thumb of the 
movie or the cover is shown) and exit with the menu-button.

== "special lists" ==
Please wait my next email. It'll be nice ;)

== global PIP ==
I saw that the PIP-Function is planed in TV. That made me very sad because I 
though it's gonna be a main feature of elisa. So that I could PIP any media, 
mixed together. For e.g. I'm watching an intresting movie in TV, but than comes 
an "commercial" and now I decide to watch anything else or listen to music 
while the commercial is running. But than I might forgett the time and miss the 
resume of the movie. But no: Because I can PIP it. One klick (somewhere) and 
the selected source is available in a small window, it's piped! Now I can 
normally use Elisa to search, open, play and so on. And one button again Elisa 
jumps back to my source I used as PIP. I also thought that would be easier to 
implement than only use it for TV.
But Le_Kwer said to me already that it's not high prioritized for Fluendo. 
That's a pity.

== extensible Programmlist(s) / EPG ==
I was really shocked when I saw the Programm List. I really dislike this kind 
of gui. Every Media-Center use it, but it's not very usefull. I had it in my 
VDR also (called yaepg) but stopped using it, because the other ones are really 
better. In this kind of screen you are unable to find anything, because there 
is to much information in to low space. You can't even read the title of the 
show. For e.g. in the screen that is shown: a Series like the Simpsons is about 
30 minutes, but there is to less space than the 'The Simpsons' would need.
But if you prefer this view I would request a api to replace this Programm List 
or better to add other ones. I would like to have one like the TVonScreen of 
the VDR:
http://www.vdr-wiki.de/wiki/index.php/Bild:Tvonscreen-plugin.jpg
or the original VDR-GUIs:
http://freenet-homepage.de/cwieninger/assets/images/stream_demux_mpeg_pes-1.png
http://www.linux-user.de/ausgabe/2004/08/033-vdr/epg_s.jpg

It would also be usefull to use the Watch-element with different Actions. As I 
made it in the VDR-Plugin (an old screencast: 
http://www.amasoean.de/serendipity/uploads/Files/Screencast/Elisa/vdr-using-vdr-osd-for-info.ogg
 ):
If you press ok on the Watch-element, the TV starts (with the last used 
Programm), but if you enter the element (by using right in this case), the 
channels are listed. There you could start watching a selected Channel (using 
the ok-button) or go into the EPG-Data (using right) and see a list of 
EPG-Events for this channel.

== EPG-Search ==
The searching would also be nice for the EPG-Data/TV, later on automatically 
recording as well....

== Configuration in TV? ==
I saw also a configuration-element in this Screen. I think, this should be done 
somewhere else...

== TV-Menu-Structur ==
I said something about the EPG structur already. For this I'll show you a kind 
of TV-Menu I would like more:

TV:
  - Watch (on OK: use the first one, or the last one used [configurable])
    - Channel 1
      - EPG-Event 1
      - EPG-Event 2
      - EPG-Event 3
      - EPG-Event 4
      - EPG-Event 5
      - ...
    - Channel 2
      - ...
    - Channel 3
      - ...
    - ... 
  - Programm (with OK: use the first one [but the order has to be configurable])
    - Programmlist
    - TVonScreen
    - some Other special ones
    - Search
      - by Name
      - by Desc
      - ...
  - Recordings (folderbased or databased)
    - Folder 1
      - Recording 1
      - Recording 2
      - ...
    - Recording 1
    - ...
  - Timers
    - Add Timer
      - choose day
        - choose month
          - choose channel
            - start hour
              - finish hour
                - validate
                - optional: add Name
                - modify
[   - automatic Timers (also periodic Timers: later)]
    - Timer 1
    - Timer 2
    - Timer 3

(maybe later on it is usefull to group this timers, e.g. series, docus, 
magazines to have a better overview)



Would like to get your answers and discussions about it!

Kind regards (and wait for my second mail)
Benjamin Kampmann


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