El jue, 30-08-2007 a las 17:01 +0200, Philippe Normand escribió:
> Le jeudi 30 août 2007 à 09:33 -0500, Brad Griffith a écrit :
> > Last night I setup elisa 0.3.1 using the recently posted Ubuntu Feisty
> > packages.  Overall, I'm very impressed.  I also installed the Fluendo
> > codec bundle to allow for playback of a variety of video and audio
> > formats.  It seems to be a very simple and well though UI once setup.
> 
> Wow, that's what i call Feedback!
> Let's take it point by point :)

Indeed, thank you for the quality of your feedback Brad.

> 
> > I did encounter a handful of issues, though:
> > 
> > 1) I watched an h.264 encoded video (encoded with HandBrake) and it
> > looked great.  However, after adjusting volume or seeking, the
> > audio/video sync would get bumped off track a bit.  The video appeared
> > to be just a hair behind the audio.  Exiting the video and then
> > returning to it (fast-forwarding to my previous position) fixed it at
> > least temporarily.
> > 
> 
> We'll do some tests and submit a bugreport if we manage to reproduce the
> bug, thanks for noticing it.
> 
> > 2) Whenever there is a lot of movement on the screen, a big sweeping
> > motion of the camera, the movement gets a bit jerky as if it's
> > dropping frames.  I'm running this on an Athlon X2 4600+ and, at least
> > judging from top output, am only using about 20% of one core to play
> > this video.  The video chip is an on-board Nvidia GeForce.  And
> > playing the same video in mplayer or other players doesn't exhibit
> > these problems.  One possibility that crossed my mind was enabling
> > XvMC, but I couldn't determine if that was possible for gstreamer.
> > 
> 
> Seems like you have vsync issues? Are you using the free or proprietary
> drivers? Pigment supports vsync for the proprietary drivers, right Loïc
> (Molinari) ? :)
> 
> > 3) I tried watching a 720p wmv from IGN and it would play the first
> > few seconds of video and then stop.  No audio at all.  Same file
> > played in mplayer.
> > 
> 
> We'll do some tests as well.. 720p wmv material used to work, AFAIK..
> Stay tuned :)
> 
> > 4) I downloaded the Theora Large version of the latest Totally Rad
> > Show episode (http://www.totallyradshow.com) and tried browsing to it
> > in elisa.  However, the folder I'd put the show into, while visible,
> > did not have the little bouncing arrow indicating I could look inside
> > and, in fact, wouldn't allow me to access the video.
> > 
> 
> That's a rather annoying temporary hack we had to implement there :(
> If you rename the file extension from ogg to ogm, you be able to play
> the video from Elisa. That hack shall disappear soon I hope!

This issue is reported in Elisa ticket #385
(https://code.fluendo.com/elisa/trac/ticket/385).

> 
> > 5) I have a music library containing approximately 165 artists.
> > Scrolling through the list can be a bit difficult because you have to
> > scroll for a short period to get the speed of the scroll up and then
> > stop a few times to check your current position in the list.  It also
> > seems that the current UI may be a bit sub-optimal for situations
> > where you don't already know what you want to listen to.  In that
> > case, you have to step through each artist-album one at a time instead
> > of being able to get an idea of what's available at a glance.
> > 
> 
> There was a grid mode display, showing you all your albums by cover at a
> glance but there are some usability issues :( We also plan to implement
> a search engine soon.
> 
> > 6) I couldn't figure out how to change volume or track position while
> > playing audio.  There was no OSD to indicate the options I had once I
> > started playing the music.
> > 
> 
> If you hide the menu while playing audio, then press OK/Enter, you'll
> see the player dock and volume informations.

This issue is now partly solved thanks to changeset #3361
(https://code.fluendo.com/elisa/trac/changeset/3361) and will be part of
the next Elisa release (0.3.2).

> 
> > 7) I encountered a confusing behaviour when browsing music by folder,
> > which perhaps shouldn't be the item selected by default when going
> > into Audio.  My music folder is organized by artist and then album.  I
> > browsed to "Andrew Bird," then "Armchair Apocrypha."  While the tracks
> > were listed in the correct order on the right-hand side of the "Play
> > All" icon, upon clicking "Playing All" it appeared to play the album
> > in a random order.
> 
> Odd, indeed. Will investigate on that issue.
> 
> > 
> > 8) When first seeing the listing of videos, my girlfriend remarked on
> > the fact that the video thumbnails looked nice.  However, when
> > browsing music, the artist icons and song icons look repetitive and
> > don't really communicate any useful information.  Not quite sure what
> > to do here, but I think (from looking at Banshee's music
> > recommendations plugin, for instance) that grabbing artist photos
> > using Last.fm might be a really slick touch.
> > 
> 
> Last time I checked Last.fm API it wasn't really easy to retrieve bands
> pictures. Also there might be legal/copyright issues there. But for sure
> it's a nice idea :)

This sure is a cool idea.

> 
> > 9) I couldn't intuit what the logic behind the zoomed out video
> > display was.  For instance, I would be watching a video clip, press
> > stop on my remote and there would be nothing on the screen other than
> > the list of video files.  However, if I browsed up to the highest
> > level in the hierarchy of my videos, just before returning to the home
> > screen carousel, a freeze frame of the video I had just been watching
> > would appear.  Seemed odd.
> > 
> 
> Sounds like a bug yes, we'll fix that one.
> 
> > 10) I think it might be worthwhile to at least offer the option to
> > resume a video I was watching at the position I had reached before
> > stopping.
> > 
> 
> Yes I came up with same idea while looking at LinuxMCE :) Video
> bookmarks would totally rock yeah. Will file a new ticket about that.

So Philippe did (https://code.fluendo.com/elisa/trac/ticket/573).
UI-wise, integrating it does not seem trivial.

> 
> > 11) I couldn't get access to any DAAP shares.  Tried starting banshee
> > w/ DAAP sharing enabled, but saw no options in the Network section of
> > my music.
> > 
> 
> Have you installed python-daap? Anyway Elisa can't yet play music hosted
> on DAAP shares :( So the DAAP plugin is not really useful for now.
> 
> > 12) Couldn't determine how to enable the flickr and youtube features
> > shown in the screencast.
> > 
> 
> See the FAQ_EXTRA to activate the Flickr plugin. You'll need to manually
> install some dependencies like twill and flickrpc.
> 
> The Youtube plugin is not public yet. It will be soon shipped apart from
> Elisa via the new Plugin repositories we are currently working on :)
> 
> > 13) My elisa.conf has one folder for music and one folder for videos.
> > However, when I browse these sections, the first thing I see is a
> > single icon saying "videos" or "music," which are the names of the two
> > folders.  If I only have one location for a type of media specified in
> > my elisa.conf, I'd expect to not have to explicitly select that
> > location before browsing my media.
> > 
> 
> That's a feature we had in Elisa 0.1. Would be nice to reimplement it,
> will file a ticket.

Filed: https://code.fluendo.com/elisa/trac/ticket/574.

> 
> > 14) I know this is simply a preference, but I think the blurring of
> > the icons in back of the home screen carousel is too pronounced.
> > 
> 
> > I know that's a lot of criticism, but I really am very excited about
> > elisa.  I'd really like to get away from MythTV and elisa is already
> > nicer in several ways (not having to manually re-scan the folders for
> > new media, the UI, the planned "just works" network features, the
> > simple controls).  Thanks so much for all your work!
> > 
> 
> Thanks to you for all these constructive remarks :)
> 
> Philippe

Thanks a lot!

Florian

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