On Mon, 2008-01-07 at 18:58 +0100, Philippe Normand wrote:
> Le lundi 07 janvier 2008 à 18:39 +0100, Patrick Dessalle a écrit :
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I don't know if it's the right place to ask question but I don't like
> > IRC ^^
> > 
> > I've tested Elisa (ubuntu gutsy packages) on the computer hooked on my
> > TV but there are a few limitations that make it quite unusable for me
> > (the main issues being the subtitles handling 
> 
> I believe we still support subtitle files (but not vob sub yet). Just
> name your sub file like the video file, but with a different extension,
> depending on the sub format (srt or txt in most cases).
> 
> > and the fact that file/folders names are truncated which isn't very
> > useful when trying to watch videos of some tv show since you don't
> > always get to see the season and episode number). 
> 
> Well, there's no easy answer to your concerns at this point. The ideal
> solution would be to not cut labels but make them horizontally animated.
> Eg, make them move from left to right back and forth, slowly.
> Unfortunately that's not supported yet in Pigment. :(

Not a very general solution. When you have a lot of similar things like
4 seasons of some show, you need more data then a scrolling filename can
easily provide.

I've been working a bit on a MythTV plugin for Elisa, and kind of run
into the same problem. I think a better solution would be to split the
screen into two parts. The top half or 2/3rds would be the way things
are now with the icons/preview, and the bottom part would be the full
file name, or if there is metadata, the metadata provided by the plugin.
stuff like:

The Simpsons - Episode 3
Channel: 4
Date: 12/04/2007
Description:
Lisa gets a ....

See (http://www.mythtv.org/mythimages/conflictresolution.png) for a
screenshot of Myth. Think, the bottom half of that screenshot, with the
top half being elisa's file chooser.

Kevin

> 
> > Other than that, elisa is a very promising project and one of the big
> > selling point for me, compared to mythtv and freevo, was that
> > installing the deb and running it just worked with HAL support and
> > without too much conf file tweaking.
> > 
> > I'd like to check out if the current SVN version would be something I
> > could use on my TV (meaning the bugs that annoy me are fixed) or if I
> > should create new tickets or try to write some plugins myself.
> > When I run elisa.py on a "fresh" update (i.e. without any ~/.elisa
> > folder), the programs fails to load a component. I've tried each and
> > every *.conf from the sample_config folder and they all fail on some
> > exception at some point. Usually something about a frontend that can't
> > be created. 
> > 
> 
> Can you give more details please? What component is failing to load. If
> you all dependencies to be installed, install the "elisa-extra" package.
> 
> > By the way, on hal_service.py, line 62, on my version of dbus (0.82.4
> > from Debian sid), I don't have a property "message" for DBusException,
> > I've modified that line (you don't use the value of message anyway) to
> > let elisa fail at some later point. 
> > 
> 
> Hmm ok, can you give us the traceback you got? We'll find a proper fix
> for it, for all versions of DBus deployed around ;)
> 
> > My question/suggestion is basically: does elisa run straight out of
> > svn (meaning i messed up somewhere) or is it normal that it doesn't
> > work on my machine ?
> > 
> 
> For now, I advise you to wait the release to use Elisa "in production".
> We are fixing some issues still, there will have some activity in SVN
> this week :) If you're using Sid, the official Elisa package will be
> updated shortly after the release.
> 
> > Thank you for having read this awfully long email, 
> > 
> 
> You're welcome, thanks for the feedback :)
> 
> Philippe

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