The difference was definitely measurable just in pure running time of the 
code, setting aside fprof. I'll post what I have after work today.

On Thursday, March 14, 2024 at 10:21:25 PM UTC+1 José Valim wrote:

> Do you have benchmarks or only the fprof results? fprof is not a 
> benchmarking tool: comparing fprof results from different code may be 
> misleading. Proper benchmarking is preferrable. I am benchmarking locally 
> and I cannot measure any relevant difference even with the whole version 
> checking removed.
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 6:01 PM Jan Krüger <jan.k...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks a lot. I'm also happy to share our case, and my fprof results, if 
>> that helps. I am very sure that my erlang, and elixir versions match, on 
>> the machine where I've tested this. Replacing Regex.run with an identical 
>> call to :re.run should show the performance improvement I've mentioned. The 
>> regex we've tested this on is: 
>>
>> ~r/^([a-z][a-z0-9\+\-\.]*):/i
>>
>> On Thursday, March 14, 2024 at 5:55:47 PM UTC+1 marcel...@googlemail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm the maintainer of RDF.ex library with the RDF.IRI module mentioned 
>>> in the OP. I can confirm that this fix doesn't affect the problem, since 
>>> we're actually not using `URI.parse/1` most of the time (we use it only 
>>> when dealing with relative URIs). Even in this case the `Regex.version/0` 
>>> call in `Regex.safe_run/3` (
>>> https://github.com/elixir-lang/elixir/blob/b8fca42e58850b56f65d0fb8a2086f2636141f61/lib/elixir/lib/regex.ex#L533)
>>>  
>>> still performs the `:erlang.system_info/0` call. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday 14 March 2024 at 17:15:40 UTC+1 jan.k...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> I read the commit, and I don't it fixes what our actual problem was. 
>>>> See my comment above. The problem is the actual call to :re.version, not 
>>>> the recompilation of the regex
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, March 14, 2024 at 4:37:43 PM UTC+1 José Valim wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have pushed a fix to main. But also note we provide precompiled 
>>>>> Elixir versions per OTP version. Using a matching version will always 
>>>>> give 
>>>>> you the best results and that's not only about regexes. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 2:20 PM Jan Krüger <jan.k...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've recently had to work on a code base that parses largish RDF XML 
>>>>>> files. Part of the code base does relatively simple but regular 
>>>>>> expression 
>>>>>> matches, but since the files are large, quite a lot of Regex.run calls. 
>>>>>> While profiling I've noticed, that there are callouts to 
>>>>>> :erlang.system_info, which fetches the PCRE version BEAM was compiled 
>>>>>> against.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An example regular expression from the code base in question matches 
>>>>>> the schema part of a URL. I've replaced Regex.run with erlang's :re.run 
>>>>>> for 
>>>>>> testing purposes, and at least for this case, there performance gain is 
>>>>>> quite dramatic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Comparing fprof results:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ```
>>>>>> RDF.IRI.scheme/1                                               
>>>>>> 1176473   30615.618    2354.355
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> RDF.IRI.scheme/1                                               
>>>>>> 1176473    3531.955    2353.905
>>>>>> ```
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I found this thread in the google group, which actually talk about 
>>>>>> the reasoning for fetching the version, and proposes and alternative.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/elixir-lang-core/c/CgFdxIONvGg/m/HN9ryeVXAwAJ?pli=1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Especially
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ```
>>>>>> Taking a further look at the code, the issue with recompiling regexes 
>>>>>> on the fly is that it makes executing the regexes more expensive, as we 
>>>>>> need to compute the version on every execution. We could store the 
>>>>>> version 
>>>>>> in ETS but that would have performance issues. Storing in a 
>>>>>> persistent_term 
>>>>>> would be great, but at the moment we support Erlang/OTP 20+. Thoughts?
>>>>>> ```
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since this has a fairly noticeable impact, at least on all tests I've 
>>>>>> run, I wanted to start a discussion, if this could be 
>>>>>> implemented/improved 
>>>>>> now.
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