The 5% also take into account the option processing and result handling.
The version check itself is a subset of that. I was not able to measure
sensible gains after removing it.

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> On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 12:23 PM 'marcel...@googlemail.com' via
> elixir-lang-core <elixir-lang-core@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> The benchmark results I'm getting are indeed not as dramatic as the fprof
>> results, but on the other hand also more than the 5% mentioned in the PR
>> which introduced the check:
>> https://github.com/elixir-lang/elixir/pull/9040
>>
>> ```elixir
>> regex = ~r/^([a-z][a-z0-9\+\-\.]*):/i
>> re_pattern = regex.re_pattern
>>
>> Benchee.run(%{
>>   "Regex.run/2" => fn -> Regex.run(regex, "foo") end,
>>   ":re.run/3" => fn -> :re.run("foo", re_pattern, [{:capture, :all,
>> :binary}]) end
>> })
>> ```
>>
>> ```
>> Name                  ips        average  deviation         median
>>   99th %
>> :re.run/3          2.88 M      346.90 ns  ±3623.51%         333 ns
>>   417 ns
>> Regex.run/2        1.98 M      504.74 ns  ±5851.21%         416 ns
>>   542 ns
>>
>> Comparison:
>> :re.run/3          2.88 M
>> Regex.run/2        1.98 M - 1.46x slower +157.84 ns
>> ```
>> On Friday 15 March 2024 at 07:20:11 UTC+1 jan.k...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> The difference was definitely measurable just in pure running time of
>>> the code, setting aside fprof. I'll post what I have after work today.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 14, 2024 at 10:21:25 PM UTC+1 José Valim wrote:
>>>
>>>> Do you have benchmarks or only the fprof results? fprof is not a
>>>> benchmarking tool: comparing fprof results from different code may be
>>>> misleading. Proper benchmarking is preferrable. I am benchmarking locally
>>>> and I cannot measure any relevant difference even with the whole version
>>>> checking removed.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 6:01 PM Jan Krüger <jan.k...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks a lot. I'm also happy to share our case, and my fprof results,
>>>>> if that helps. I am very sure that my erlang, and elixir versions match, 
>>>>> on
>>>>> the machine where I've tested this. Replacing Regex.run with an identical
>>>>> call to :re.run should show the performance improvement I've mentioned. 
>>>>> The
>>>>> regex we've tested this on is:
>>>>>
>>>>> ~r/^([a-z][a-z0-9\+\-\.]*):/i
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, March 14, 2024 at 5:55:47 PM UTC+1
>>>>> marcel...@googlemail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm the maintainer of RDF.ex library with the RDF.IRI module
>>>>>> mentioned in the OP. I can confirm that this fix doesn't affect the
>>>>>> problem, since we're actually not using `URI.parse/1` most of the time 
>>>>>> (we
>>>>>> use it only when dealing with relative URIs). Even in this case the
>>>>>> `Regex.version/0` call in `Regex.safe_run/3` (
>>>>>> https://github.com/elixir-lang/elixir/blob/b8fca42e58850b56f65d0fb8a2086f2636141f61/lib/elixir/lib/regex.ex#L533)
>>>>>> still performs the `:erlang.system_info/0` call.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday 14 March 2024 at 17:15:40 UTC+1 jan.k...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I read the commit, and I don't it fixes what our actual problem was.
>>>>>>> See my comment above. The problem is the actual call to :re.version, not
>>>>>>> the recompilation of the regex
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 14, 2024 at 4:37:43 PM UTC+1 José Valim wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have pushed a fix to main. But also note we provide precompiled
>>>>>>>> Elixir versions per OTP version. Using a matching version will always 
>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>> you the best results and that's not only about regexes. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 2:20 PM Jan Krüger <jan.k...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've recently had to work on a code base that parses largish RDF
>>>>>>>>> XML files. Part of the code base does relatively simple but regular
>>>>>>>>> expression matches, but since the files are large, quite a lot of 
>>>>>>>>> Regex.run
>>>>>>>>> calls. While profiling I've noticed, that there are callouts to
>>>>>>>>> :erlang.system_info, which fetches the PCRE version BEAM was compiled
>>>>>>>>> against.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> An example regular expression from the code base in question
>>>>>>>>> matches the schema part of a URL. I've replaced Regex.run with 
>>>>>>>>> erlang's
>>>>>>>>> :re.run for testing purposes, and at least for this case, there 
>>>>>>>>> performance
>>>>>>>>> gain is quite dramatic.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Comparing fprof results:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ```
>>>>>>>>> RDF.IRI.scheme/1
>>>>>>>>> 1176473   30615.618    2354.355
>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>> RDF.IRI.scheme/1
>>>>>>>>> 1176473    3531.955    2353.905
>>>>>>>>> ```
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I found this thread in the google group, which actually talk about
>>>>>>>>> the reasoning for fetching the version, and proposes and alternative.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/elixir-lang-core/c/CgFdxIONvGg/m/HN9ryeVXAwAJ?pli=1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Especially
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ```
>>>>>>>>> Taking a further look at the code, the issue with recompiling
>>>>>>>>> regexes on the fly is that it makes executing the regexes more 
>>>>>>>>> expensive,
>>>>>>>>> as we need to compute the version on every execution. We could store 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> version in ETS but that would have performance issues. Storing in a
>>>>>>>>> persistent_term would be great, but at the moment we support 
>>>>>>>>> Erlang/OTP
>>>>>>>>> 20+. Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>> ```
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Since this has a fairly noticeable impact, at least on all tests
>>>>>>>>> I've run, I wanted to start a discussion, if this could be
>>>>>>>>> implemented/improved now.
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