+1 (keep it in) On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Xebar Saram <zelt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 for keeping it in > > i often debug my org based init config by launching emacs -Q and its great > to have org built in for that :) > > Z > > On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 7:11 PM, Christian Moe <m...@christianmoe.com> > wrote: > >> >> +1. >> >> (= Keep it in.) >> >> Yours, >> Christian >> >> Carsten Dominik writes: >> >> > Dear all, >> > >> > I'd hate to see Org removed from Emacs. It took a lot of work to get it >> > in, and I believe that the vast majority of Emacs users does not install >> > packages. For a newbie to get to Emacs and to be able to open a .org >> file >> > is a big plus. So my vote goes toward keeping it in. >> > >> > Carsten >> > >> > On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 10:22 AM, <aaermo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> 2 cents from me... >> >> >> >> Besides I continuously see many users praising Emacs just for Org >> >> presence (they even may be completely non-technical users), I'm >> >> personally think Org may be removed from Emacs distribution because: >> >> >> >> 1) all Reuben's argument seems sane; >> >> 2) there are situations when someone wants particular version of Org, >> >> and it may be not tne one bundled with Emacs. In this case someone >> >> should perform extra steps to ensure things are going the right way. >> >> When Org will be available only from ELPA, it will be SPOT for such >> >> cases. >> >> >> >> Reuben Thomas <r...@sc3d.org> writes: >> >> >> >> > Now that Emacs has had package.el for some years, and Org is >> installable >> >> > directly from GNU ELPA, would it be a good idea to remove Org from >> >> Emacs's >> >> > source repository? >> >> > >> >> > The current situation is left over from before Emacs had package.el, >> and >> >> I >> >> > see no compelling reason to keep it. Org is too big and distinct to >> be >> >> > swallowed by Emacs; it doesn't make much sense to keep its current >> >> half-in, >> >> > half-out state; so logically it seems sensible to take it out. >> >> > >> >> > I am asking this question from an Org point of view; I will ask the >> Emacs >> >> > maintainers separately for their perspective. >> >> > >> >> > I think it would benefit Emacs too, as there would be less code to >> >> maintain >> >> > (even though Org is quasi-external at present, it still has to build >> >> > successfully as part of an Emacs build), and the Emacs distribution >> would >> >> > be slimmer for non-Org users. >> >> > >> >> > Of course, Emacs "distributions" would still be able to include Org >> >> > out-of-the box if they wished. >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > http://rrt.sc3d.org >> >> >> >> >> >
