Just one question, Richard ... On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 5:50 AM Richard Lawrence <richard.lawre...@uni-tuebingen.de> wrote:
[...] > I think it is worth pointing out to Bib(La)TeX users that it is useful > to avoid a proliferation of citation commands in Org syntax. The syntax > discussed so far achieves this by "factoring out" formatting information > that BibLaTeX puts into the command into other parts of the syntax and > into the choice of citation stylesheet. For example, instead of having > \footnotecite and \parencite as separate commands, you can just have a > single cite command, and the choice of stylesheet determines whether > citations get formatted as footnotes or as in-text parenthetical > citations or as something else. Before the question, I did just want to add that this is an excellent point. [...] > My experience is that it's typically just two (e.g. parenthetical and > author-in-text), and my memory of the earlier conversation was that most > people agreed. Just to align what you're saying and what I'm saying: I see three commands in the pandoc syntax: standard/parenthetical, author-in-text, and suppress-author; that look like so: [@doe17] @doe17 -@doe17 Implicit in what you wrote is the last one is not needed. The question, then: Is that what you're saying; we don't need suppress-author? I think I actually agree, though will add a topic that came up in the CSL implementation discussion for the author-in-text styles in the past few days. Here's a common way a citation might be integrated in a narrative text: Doe, by contrast, found negative results (2017). So we have the author name in-text, than some text, then the year-only citation. The traditional way to do that in pandoc is to use the suppress-author command at the end. Doe, by contrast, found negative results [-@doe17]. So the piece of information I refer to above is that one of the CSL implementers (Frank Bennett) figured out how to make the above example an author-in-text variant, so that you don't need suppress-author, and the entire sentence is the citation. He did this by adding an optional "infix" variable to the citation. So in that example, you would have: - command: "author-in-text" - citekey: "doe17" - infix: "by contrast, found negative results" This is arguably an edge case, but it does relate to the question of whether we need two (standard and author-in-text) or three commands (adding the suppress-author). One could make the reasonable argument (I think, though not everyone would agree) that the workaround for the above example is to use author-in-text command but restructure the sentence: @doe17, by contrast, found negative results. >From that perspective, I guess we indeed need only two commands: standard (parenthetical) and author-in-text. Bruce
