I had an idea on this, though it may not be a good one ... On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 2:39 PM Bruce D'Arcus <bdar...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 1:47 PM Nicolas Goaziou <m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr> > wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > "Bruce D'Arcus" <bdar...@gmail.com> writes: > > > > > Some sentence with a concluding citation [cite:@key]. > > > > > > ... that should end up like this: > > > > > > Some sentence with a concluding citation.[1] > > > > > > Aside: looking through the CSL spec, it doesn't seem this is > > > documented. It obviously should be. > > > > > > And I don't remember if that convention is locale-specific; e.g. if > > > while that's the standard in English, it could be different in France. > > > > > > In any case, this sort of punctuation modification should be possible. > > > > Could you show more example of this, possibly including quotes the > > citation, or better, a precise description of the punctuation > > modification you have in mind? > > Yes. > > Denis lays it out in this comment: > > https://github.com/citation-style-language/documentation/issues/139#issuecomment-825934813 > > What he's arguing is that the rules vary by locale, with German, for > example (he's employed at a Swiss-German institution, I believe), > having different conventions than English, and American English > different than British English. > > But an example from American English for illustration, derived from > Denis' examples. > > "A simple quote" [cite:@doe]. > > When rendered, that should be this in an author-date style: > > "A simple quote" (Doe 2021). > > ... and this in a note style: > > "A simple quote."[^1] > > So that rule would suggest something like: > > - if a citation concludes a sentence, move the note mark and whatever > trailing quotation mark, outside the period. > > But, Denis continues, "While this is perfectly acceptable in American > English, it is not in German, or even in British English. Here we have > to know whether the final period is part of the original quotation. If > yes, it will be put inside the quotes, otherwise outside." I'll paste > the rest of his examples at the end. > > It's possible his rule here is more general, and would still be > acceptable in American English.
The idea is this: make use of a "quote" style and abuse the item prefix for the quote content? So using his example: [cite/quote:;A simple quote. @doe20] A processor could then know the citation is associated with a quote that ends a sentence, vs (note missing period): [cite/quote:;A simple quote @doe20] ... and then more easily adjust accordingly, without needing to know anything about the surrounding punctuation. Does that make sense? Bruce