Bill Wohler wrote:
There are two solutions
1. Preserve the Emacs 21 semantics which had the effect of remembering
customization settings in customize-set-variables so that when the
modules were eventually loaded, the user's settings took
precendence.
In as far as I can see the way that customization settings are
remembered in emacs-23 is exactly the same as in current CVS. I
explained the somewhat complex details in my earlier message. What
_has_ changed is that now define-derived-mode writes a defvar for the
mode hook. It did not do that in emacs-21.3. That is what caused the
regression.
Why does define-minor-mode need to defvar the mode hook? There is no
need to defvar hooks. `add-hook' can perfectly handle unbound hook
variables. I propose that we revert this change in
define-derived-mode. One should check define-minor-mode and similar
macros to see if they have the same problem and correct them too if
they do.
Boy howdy! It is a trend.
Not to the degree you think. Obviously it is a "trend" for mode hooks
that have competing definitions, one as a defvar and one as a
defcustom. However, many of the problems in your list seem to be
unrelated local problems. For instance I can not reproduce your
problem with ispell-program-name.
Sincerely,
Luc.
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