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>My Reply follows quote. On 28/02/2003 09:12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:  
>
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (chris) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>(Sheafe Ewing), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Emailer Talk)

>>>As I look at this Emailer message box, it would allow for around eighty 
>>>characters to be inserted before wrapping. 
>>>
>>>I compose and receive emails which are sent and received.... ones where 
>>>the lines  obviously don't appear onscreen as they were composed. 
>>>
>>>Even sending a copy to myself, the copy often gets chopped up.   
>>>
>>>QUESTION:  Why does this happen?  And, can I do anything about it? 
>>
>>Emailer allows for a much larger width than it sends on to the SMTP 
>>server. Why? I have NO idea. That just seems to be the way they wrote it. 

I believe the objective is to allow up to six levels of quote before soft 
wrapping the quoted lines thus creating additional lines with fewer quote 
marks, which means confusion. 

>>It will wrap the lines at 72 characters when it sends to the mail server. 
>>Why? Because some mail servers don't want longer lines. Some will accept 
>>any length per line, some will accept 256 characters per line, some will 
>>allow 80 characters per line. 
>>
>>The end result is, what you write in Emailer is rarely what you get. 

But it should not matter to you. What you see in your outgoing mail 
window is not wrapped. what you receive is wrapped. 

>As I recall, during the development of version 2 of Emailer, there was a 
>lot of discussion of the "wrapping" specs of various email standards. The 
>end result was a decision by the programmers that set the "hard wrap" you 
>see today. 

I think what we see today is soft wrapping. 

>The same decisions had/have to be made by programmers for any 
>email client. The varied implementation of the "standards" by different 
>programmers produce different results. 

In particular on the windows platform where quote marks are either 
noexistent or non standard and where all mail clients (except Eudora) and 
html mail force you to reply before the quoted part. 
>
>To further complicate the process, different users of the many email 
>clients set their preferences for font and size to display it what they 
>believe to be "attractive" ways. The process of sending these messages 
>across the internet often produces less than desireable results. 

This is really true only IMHO when you use RTF or html encoding. If you 
use plain text, it should be up to you to use on your mail client a 
window wide enough to accomodate the 80 characters of the longest line. 
And if you cannot, maybe you should reduce the size of your Monaco 24 to 
something like monaco 9. 

On this respec, mail (of Jaguar) appears to be more modern that emailer. 
It is upwards compatible with Emailer (it reads and replies to emailer as 
intended) but also uses RTF encoding for people who want to play with 
fonts and the like, receives html mail but never sends html mail, and 
uses the "format-flowed" header and techniques developed by Eudora and 
not implemented on Emailer. This format-flowed stuff permits the quoted 
parts to flow freely in the message windows (what you want on a palm 
screen), but still to show the required number of quote marks, which then 
appear as an excerpt bar on the left hand side of the message. of course, 
a format-flowed message is received by Emailer as a quoted message, with 
soft wraps where they should be. Further, the color coding is always 
preserved. 

-- 
Jean-Pierre                    <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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