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Hi Roger,
(I'm typing this quickly - please forgive any errors).
If you've deleted parts from inside the system folder, and are now
suffering as a result, the most reasonable thing to do is to install a
working system folder. If I were in your place, I would perform a new
fresh "clean" installation of Mac OS 9.1. This is an option in the Mac OS
installer. A clean install does not make use of any of the old system
parts, so you KNOW that all parts are factory-fresh and where they came
from.
important: before installing the new system:
open your TCP/IP control panel & take a screen photo of the settings.
That's command shift 3 or command shot 4. It will save it as "picture
1" on your hard drive.
Do the same for FileSharing Control panel & the "internet" control panel.
Password(s) won't show up, so hopefully you know those already.
Then... My own little trick; after the "Clean" Mac System install, I drag
the new "System folder" into a new & empty folder. View as a list, and
option-click the disclosure triangle to reveal all subfolders & files at
once. It will be a long list and sometimes takes a minute or 2. Select
all, then pull File menu to "Label" -> brown. This will apply a brown
color to all of the freshly installed system parts. IF desired you may
then select only the Apple Menu Items and apply a label of "none" because
most people don't like a mostly brown Apple Menu. To complete this trick,
option-click the System Folder's disclosure triangle again to roll up all
those folders at once, then drag the system folder back out to the hard
drive where it belongs & discard the leftover empty folder.
After booting up from the new System folder, there are a few system parts
that you want to retrieve from the old "Previous system folder";
Claris folder
Some preferences (but not until you're sure it can't make a new one by
itself).
Explorer & Netscape folders with Bookmarks.
Printer drivers found in Extensions" folder
& some in "Extensions" -> Printer Descriptions"
It's REALLY IMPORTANT that you not transfer anything into the new System
folder unless you KNOW it's necessary. Better to not have it & get a
complaint (err) than to drag too much stuff to the new system folder and
suddenly have the same old problems again.
Hope this helps.
Best,
Dave Nathanson
Mac Medix
On 4/30/04 10:16 AM, Roger Barclay [EMAIL PROTECTED] tapped the
keyboard to say:
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> Hi Dave,
>
> Sorry for the delay in getting back to you after you were so
>kind as to respond to my original plea (which is at the foot of this
>e-mail).
> My replies are with your questions.
>
>On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, Dave Nathanson wrote:
>
>> *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro*
>>
>> Hi Roger,
>>
>> Check the "Internet" control panel if you have one. Also the TCP/IP, but
>> since your browser is working, your TCP/IP is probably just fine now.
>>
>> Questions:
>> What Mac OS are you using?
>
> At present it's 9.1, I upgraded from 8.6, which is when the trouble
>started.
>
>> What type of internet connection do you use? (dial up PPP, DSL, Office
>> LAN, etc)
>
> Dial up PPP.
>
>> Did you trash "programs" from inside your system folder?
>
> Yes, but the devil of it is I cannot remember what exactly!
>
>> Did you trash any bits from inside the Emailer folder?
>
> Yes, although since then I've completely deleted Emailer & re-installed
>it.
>
>> Can you use the same password & username at freeserve's webmail? That
>> will prove if you have the correct login info.
>> <http://fsmail.freeserve.com/webmail/login.html>
>
> Well, there's a thing! I've never seen that before &, yes, I can log
>onto it with my present settings.
>
>> Here's how to set up MS LookOut for FreeServe:
>> <http://www.fsnet.co.uk/help/email/outlookexpress/oe5easysettings.htm>
>> Emailer is very similar setup, except that the POP (incoming) mail server
>> and the user ID go into the same box.
>> Since you can't have 2 "@" signs in the login, use a "%" for the 1st one.
>> So it might be something like:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
> I'm no great fan of MS & only use it when necessary & it has
>its
>own HD on my Linux PC (on which I'm writing this: it's Kmail in Mandrake
>7.2
>& works like a charm), so really I'd rather not try that method.
>
>
>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Best,
>> Dave Nathanson
>> Mac Medix
>
> Thanks again, Dave. I've tried re-setting my details in Emailer ,
>using your input & it's still giving me this login/password error. Maybe
>I'll forget e-mail on the Mac & just use the PC, contenting myself with
>confining the Mac's connexion with the outside world to surfing, using iCab!
>
> Rog Barclay.
> On 4/27/04 3:10 AM, Roger Barclay [EMAIL PROTECTED] tapped the
>>
>> keyboard to say:
>> >Hi,
>> > Can anyone help me with this? I had Emailer 2.0 running quite happily
>> >on
>> >my Mac 9500/200 & then, after a rush of blood to the head I junked a load
>> > of what seemed to be useless programs. In doing so, I inadvertently lost
>> > some vital internet settings, none of which I had noted down. I
>> > re-installed some
>> >of the missing bits & got my browser (iCab) up & running again but sofar
>> >have
>> >failed to get Emailer to work. All that comes up is a failure log which
>> >reads: 'POP server error "-ERR [AUTH] Invalid login/password pair" '.
>> > To date I've changed my password, tried both internet & manual
>> >configurations & deleted & re-installed Emailer. I'm in the UK & my ISP
>> > is Freeserve (or whatever they're calling themselves now).
>> > All advice will be welcome! TIA.
>> > Roger Barclay.
>>
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