>Has anyone ever investigated the possibility of getting the sources for >emailer and Carbonizing it?
Yeah, its been looked into. Apple doesn't appear to have any interest in releasing the source code. Nor much of an interest in evening talking about it. And that is once you get to someone that even has a clue on the topic. Plus unofficially, word has it, the Emailer source code has been well misplaced at Apple during the closeout of Claris. They don't appear to have any idea where the source code is. So it appears that there is little or probably no way of officially getting the source code from Apple, or permission to use that source code. But pretending for a minute that you COULD get the source code, the effort involved in carbonizing it would likely far outweigh any benefit to doing so. There are a good number of 3rd party libraries in Emailer, and each of them would have to be carbonized or removed. Since companies like RadioMail are long since out of business, that code would have to be removed because no one has the source code for those libraries to carbonize them (and frankly, why bother when it can't be used anyway). AOL would probably never give permission to update their libraries, or to even use them in a new version of Emailer, so those too would have to be removed. LOTS AND LOTS of programming work just to get to the stage where Emailer's code itself can be carbonized. Then all of that work to carbonize the remainder of Emailer. THEN all the work to bring it up to snuff with modern features (SMTP Authentication, POP before SMTP, support for strange user names, fix bugs, better handling of HTML, spam filtering, IMAP support...) Basically, it is a GIGANTIC task to bring Emailer up to date. And for what? To release as yet ANOTHER email client in the Mac market. Lets face it. OS X's Mail has the largest client base in OS X simply because it works and it preinstalled. Then you have Outlook Express and Eudora as free, commercially supported clients (and a long list of free/shareware not as well supported clients). Then you have PowerMail, MailSmith, Eudora, Entourage as for sale, well supported clients. Its already a pretty well covered market, so Emailer isn't likely to generate many sales, pretending of course that you could even get permission from all involved parties to sell a new version. Its unlikely to find anyone willing to invest the time, money, and resources to doing the work if they aren't going to get a financial gain. If someone wants to do this kind of work for free, they can go support the Thunderbird project which is already well off the ground and has multiple programmers involved. Or they can write their own client from scratch, which with today's tools, will likely be easier and faster then trying to retrofit Emailer. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net> ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe send a mail message with a SUBJECT line of "unsubscribe" to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> or <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

