To the potential clone developers, I have been trying to wean myself away from Classic for some time and have been trying out several email clients over the past several months. I decided on using Gyazmail and like the program UI and features very much. However I ran into a situation this past weekend that illustrates one feature that any CE clone must not have. The facts are complicated and so I am posting my correspondence with Gyazmail below so that you will know to avoid this trap. If anyone has any questions please feel free to contact me off list.
I will be most interested in a CE replacement and wish the team great success. I am not a programmer and thus can't help much myself but I hope that this list will be updated frequently so that we may be aware of progress being made. I do have some idea of the difficulty of this job. I really wish it were possible to get some of the original CE developers involved, at the very least as consultants. > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:26:52 -0400 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: "S. Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Loss of message database > > On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:58:57 +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Sorry I don't understand your situation yet... Is my understanding >> correct? >> >> - Now you can send messages. >> - But you cannot use the smtp server settings (Verizon?) that >> Earthlink recommends. > > I haven't been as clear about how I lost the emails as I could have > been. I will try to list the events as they happened. > > 1. I found that I could not post messages to a email talk list. > Apparently because I was using Earthlink on a Verizon server they > rejected my emails as relayed. No problem with any other server that I > was aware of at the time. > > 2 Called Earthlink and they suggested that I change the SMPT server > from smtpauth,earthlink.net to smpt.verizon.net with no authorization > required. > > 3 Instead of changing my existing account, I made a new account the > same as the old one except for the smpt server designation. Then I > couldn't send anything to anyone so I deleted that account. > > 4 Using the old account, I still couldn't send any outgoing messages. > I notices that the smpt server on that account had also been changed to > verizon so I changed it back to earthlink.net but it still keep trying > to use the verizon version despite everything I tried. > > 5 Finally, in desperation I deleted that account and started over > setting up a new account. I didn't realize that I would also lose all > of my messages in the database when I did this. I think that deleting > the account information should have no effect on the message database > and though it is not a bug it can certainly be a serious problem. > > 6 After setting up an entirely new account and folders with rules I was > able to download all of my messages from earthlink for the past 5 > days. With the backup of 6/11 and the 5 days I was able to download on > 6/20 all I am missing is the 4 days between 6/11 and 6/16 plus all of > the sent messages after 6/11. > > 7 I still can't post to the talk list that started all of this but that > is a minor problem compared to the loss of messages. I will try your > suggestion for recovering messages from my backup disk. > > As an aside, I have been using Claris Emailer for 9 years and of about > 10,000 saved and no telling how many deleted messages I have never lost > anything not on purpose. It is as bullet proof as any program I have > ever used and I really wish someone could use it as a template for how > a really good email client should work and produce a cocoa clone of > it. There is a group just starting such a project and I am wishing > them much success. Reliability and protection of the data is the most > important aspect of an email client. Gyazmail was the closest in > function to CE that I tried out but this loss has me thinking that I > should stick with CE for a while longer. > > I am wondering if moving my backup of Gyazmail to another user would > allow me to open that copy of the client with the saved messages. I > think that might work but I'm not sure if it would help move the > messages to my current account. At least I could archive those messages > to a mbox file for later importation. I am going to do some serious > backup of all my message data before trying any recovery. I guess > making a zipped archive of each Account 0 would be adequate protection > as long as the zipped files were on another HD. > > Many thanks for your helpful responses. I will let you know how things > go later. > > S. Kennedy ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe send a mail message with a SUBJECT line of "unsubscribe" to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> or <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
