I'm now convinced that the "digest" does not suit the way I work !
Re
cropping the previous message when replying. Editing takes time - hitting
the reply button is faster. When discussing a particular theme its also
helpful to have the context. I have one friend who continues a
conversation
through several posts quoting all previous posts - the result being a
variety
of colored text depending on the number of arrows preceding the text. I
have
to scroll to the black one to find the latest comment! I prefer not to
do that,
BUT it's what he does so I live with it :)
Bea
>Just for your education, this is a "digest".
>You can see what a pain it is to scroll down to the next message when you
>"top post"! (Especially when you top post without bothering to crop off
>the quoted text, including adverts, signatures and how to unsubscribe!)
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>emailer-digest Digest Volume 2006 : Issue 114
>
>Today's Topics:
> Re: A "Survey" of a sort #41 [ Douglas McAdam
><[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> Re: Survey of a sort [ Mick Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>]
> Re: Survey of a sort [ Mark James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> Re: A "Survey" of a sort #41 [ Douglas McAdam
><[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> Re: A "Survey" of a sort #41 [ Yersinia
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> Re: A "Survey" of a sort #41 [ Mark James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> Re: Survey of a sort [ Bea Hopkinson
><[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> Re: Survey of a sort #43 [ Bea Hopkinson
><[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> Re: Survey - another Emailer user #4 [ Bea Hopkinson
><[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> Re: A "Survey" of a sort #38 [ Bea Hopkinson
><[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> Re: A "Survey" of a sort #41 [ Marc CASTEELS
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> Re: A "Survey" of a sort #45 [ Jean-Pierre Smith
><Jean_Pierre_Smit ]
> Re: A "Survey" of a sort #41 [ Douglas McAdam
><[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> Re: Attachments: pdf [ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> Re:A "Survey" of a sort #41 [ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> Re: PING to find IP [ Tannis Baker
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> Re: A "Survey" of a sort #41 [ Yersinia
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> Re: A "Survey" of a sort #38 [ Bea Hopkinson
><[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> Re: Survey of a sort #45 [ Bea Hopkinson
><[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> Re: OS 9 and X [ Bea Hopkinson
><[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> Re: A "Survey" of a sort #46 [ Bea Hopkinson
><[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> Re: PING to find IP [ cb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 11:47:20 -0500
>From: Douglas McAdam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: A "Survey" of a sort #41
>
>
>I keep reading who has what number but nobody has told me yet what my
>number is.
>
>doug
>
>
>On Nov 11, 2006, at 6:41 PM, Bea Hopkinson wrote:
>
>> Tyrone, you are #41.
>>
>> Re your interesting note below about telling developers what we need.
>> I
>> wouldn't have known what to ask for before using CE - and in truth was
>> spoiled
>> from the beginning because its all I am familiar with. Nevertheless, I
>> know
>> instinctively that it satisfies all my needs for speedy operation
>> (filing, deleting,
>> sending, reading, format, ease of operation). As my archive of
>> folders
>> and files have expanded over the years one can only wonder at how
>> efficient the program is. When I
>> open other programs (particularly web mail) its strictly LOVE CE even
>> more :) What
>> minor problems do exist appear to be with the interface - hard luck for
>> the others and
>> a nuisance to us!
>>
>> Its no wonder there are no updates - I would be hard pressed to figure
>> out how to
>> improve it :) Can't help but sound glowing!!
>>
>> Bea
>>
>>>> On or about Tue, 7 Nov 2006 17:52:50 -0800, Sheafe EWING or someone
>>>> claiming such identity, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Here we are, a diminishing number of Emailer devoteés.
>>>>
>>>> I prefer to think of the process as winnowing of the chaff :)
>>>>
>>>> I'm still using CE 2.0v3 on my platinum G3 minitower and Powerbook
>>>> 540c.
>>>> I've tried a number of newer email clients and, like Mark, I've
>>>> come to
>>>> the conclusion that they just "suck." Anyone here have an opinion
>>>> (heh)
>>>> as to why the state of the art in email clients hasn't advanced in
>>>> the
>>>> past several years (of course, this is from a guy whose favorite word
>>>> processor is still Word 5.1a)?
>>>>
>>>> Tyler
>>> Here's my 2 cents. First, I have to admit I've been off Emailer for
>>> about 2-3 years now, using OS X Mail. It's OK, but you're right, it's
>>> not Emailer. It sounds silly, but the biggest thing I miss from CE
>>> is that I could manage a mailing list right in the app,
>>> automatically. If an email came in with a specific subject, I could
>>> have it added or removed from the mailing list. I digress. The
>>> reason I think is that a lot of mail app developers (and developers
>>> in general) are not asking their users what they want to do or what
>>> they want the software to do. Think about what I said above, there
>>> are plug ins that will allow some of that functionality in probably
>>> most mail apps, but CE allowed it right out of the box. I remember
>>> back when Microsoft shipped an early version of Excel, they actually
>>> put a mail-in questionnaire in many magazines asking what features
>>> people would like to see. That was the last time I'd seen that on any
>>> product. Now it seems more like the developer wants to go in a
>>> certain direction and force you to go that way, ie "you can have any
>>> color, so long as it's black."
>>>
>>
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>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:28:48 +0100
>From: Mick Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Survey of a sort
>
>
>Hi all,
>no longer using CE but I miss it. CE was the only Classic app I was
>still using, so I figured the writing was clearly etched on the wall
>and migrated to Mail. Mail's fine, but it lacks the elegance and
>sleekness of CE.
>
>Appropriately for a fantastic piece of software, CE has a brilliant
>user group to match - every time I had issues I had prompt and helpful
>responses from list members. Chris was always quick off the mark, but
>others too.
>
>VRic seems to have fallen off the list which is a great pity - he was
>an ace with creating useful applescripts.
>
>Anyway, all strength to those of you continuing the good fight.
>
>My nomination for a moniker for any OSX version of CE is "eXmailer" (a
>variant of "exmailer" - proposed by Dan K a while back) - it nicely
>captures most of what it would be (and where it came from).
>
>If you're counting watchers as well as users, I'll accept whatever
>number I'm allotted (prime or non).
>
>Mick
>
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>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 10:32:53 -0800
>From: Mark James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Survey of a sort
>
>
>BTW: Apple let the registration lapse on emailer, so it could be named
>Emailer. ;-)
>
>
>
>"He who asks a question is a fool for five minutes; he who does not ask a
>question remains a fool forever."
> -Chinese Proverb
>
>
>Mark James
>SoftRAID, LLC
>mjames@ softraid.com
>
>
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>
>To unsubscribe send a mail message with a SUBJECT line of "unsubscribe" to
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>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 14:10:57 -0500
>From: Douglas McAdam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: A "Survey" of a sort #41
>
>
>On Nov 12, 2006, at 11:30 AM, Yersinia wrote:
>
>> Yeah, really! My Classic Mode is running CE and all but one of my OS 9
>> apps with total perfection. But since I didn't get rid of OS 9 when I
>> started using OS X, on the occasions I need that one app to perform the
>> one function it won't perform properly on Tiger, I just boot in 9 and
>> all's well. Yeah, this "new" Quicksilver really IS the best of both
>> worlds! :-D
>
>Strange, I am using my granddaughters G4 with OS 10.3.9 which has
>Classic and CE but she does not want me running CE instead prefers
>Mail, sigh! However I find I cannot open files in Classic. I find an
>old file from AppleWorks or Word Perfect, PageMaker etc. and I cannot
>double click on them to open them and if I go into the app. itself and
>select Open I don't see the file appear on the HD listing, or Desktop.
>
>This is not related to CE but I thought I would ask you how you open
>such files.
>
>regards,
>doug
>
>___________________________________________________________________________
>
>To unsubscribe send a mail message with a SUBJECT line of "unsubscribe" to
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>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 17:10:52 -0500
>From: Yersinia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: A "Survey" of a sort #41
>
>
>Doug writes,
>
><Strange, I am using my granddaughters G4 with OS 10.3.9 which has
>Classic and CE but she does not want me running CE instead prefers
>Mail, sigh! However I find I cannot open files in Classic. I find an
>old file from AppleWorks or Word Perfect, PageMaker etc. and I cannot
>double click on them to open them and if I go into the app. itself and
>select Open I don't see the file appear on the HD listing, or Desktop.
>
>This is not related to CE but I thought I would ask you how you open
>such files.>
>
><Strange, I am using my granddaughters G4 with OS 10.3.9 which has
>Classic and CE but she does not want me running CE instead prefers
>Mail, sigh! However I find I cannot open files in Classic. I find an
>old file from AppleWorks or Word Perfect, PageMaker etc. and I cannot
>double click on them to open them and if I go into the app. itself and
>select Open I don't see the file appear on the HD listing, or Desktop.
>
>This is not related to CE but I thought I would ask you how you open
>such files.>
>
>Your problem sounds very bizarre to me. I open my Classic apps and files
>in OS X the exact same way I opened them under OS 9!!! The only
>difference with OS X is that there's the Dock, and therefore an "extra"
>way to open up stuff. But, here's how I open up stuff:
>
>I double click on the application's icon, and that opens it. Or, I double
>click on a particular file (such as a word processing file), which both
>launches AppleWorks 6 and opens the file. I also open up stuff when
>booted in OS X from the "Recent Items" menu (in 9, it's "Recent
>Applications" and "Recent Documents," but close enough). And I
>"re-activate" running but not-in-use apps by clicking their icons in the
>Dock.
>
>Every app and file I've tried to open, I opened via something in the
>above description. I don't understand why you shouldn't be able to do
>that, unless there's some sort of difference between Panther and Tiger
>maybe? I didn't ever use Panther or earlier, I only just started using OS
>X a couple of months ago when I got my Quicksilver 867 with a Tiger HD
>(10.4.7) already in it (I added my own OS 9 HD as soon as I confirmed
>that the machine worked!). Anyway, the way I have things set up is that
>the Tiger drive is my "regular" boot drive, and is set in System
>Preferences to automatically start Classic Mode upon boot. It gets its
>Classic requirements by using the System Folder in my OS 9 HD. Every so
>often, when I need to boot in 9, I just do an Option Restart and change
>the boot drive to the 9 HD so I run purely in 9 for as long as I need to.
>Because the Tiger drive is my "regular" boot drive, when I'm done in 9, a
>regular restart gets me back into OS X, where Classic Mode boots up right
>away.
>
>I can and have used CE booted in both drives on this machine, but since
>I'm usually booted in X, mostly I'm using it there in Classic Mode. (I
>need to use 9 a bit later, but right now, I'm still on Tiger, and of
>course this email is being composed and sent via CE!)
>
>Mail.app -- I refuse to even touch it! LOL And the stuff I'm hearing
>about it in here (not as elegant, not as efficient, etc.) and on the
>G-list (problems with it) are just SO not inspiring to make me even WANT
>to try it. Yuck!
>
>~Yersinia.
>
>
>________
>
>"Women might be able to fake orgasms. But men can fake whole
>relationships."
>
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>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 14:47:46 -0800
>From: Mark James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: A "Survey" of a sort #41
>
>
>>Every app and file I've tried to open, I opened via something in the
>>above description. I don't understand why you shouldn't be able to do
>>that, unless there's some sort of difference between Panther and Tiger
>>maybe?
>
>He may have the same problem I do, which is a large amount of incoming
>attachments lose their suffix.
>
>
>
>From: Dan Kalikow
>
>Reminds me of what one e-wag recently quipped -- that even VIRUS-writers
>don't support the Mac...
>
>
>Mark James
>SoftRAID, LLC
>mjames@ softraid.com
>
>
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>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 15:09:44 -0800
>From: Bea Hopkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Survey of a sort
>
>
>Sheafe,
>
> I'm not clear about these List "Digests" as I've never
>requested them. Am I right in thinking that they are sent
>just once a day as a group - or is it something else?
>
>Bea
>>Glad to have had the response(s) from so many ...
>>regulars and others.
>>
>>Appreciate the help of Bea Hopkinson in "keeping track"
>>or responders. It appears that many have selected
>>response numbers that may not be exactly in-sequence.
>>
>>No matter. The idea was to elicit responses. Of those
>>responses, the names of the responders is the important
>>point.
>>
>>So, let's keep uncovering more names of Emailer users,
>>who belong to this list... whether they receive individual
>>posts, or as a digest.
>>
>>Sheafe Ewing
>>
>>___________________________________________________________________________
>>To unsubscribe send a mail message with a SUBJECT line of "unsubscribe" to
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>>
>
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>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 15:09:48 -0800
>From: Bea Hopkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Survey of a sort #43
>
>
>Jay you are #43
>
> I've also just noticed that my server has been feeding me some old
>stuff
>in duplicate so I was wondering whty the figure in the survey folder was
>reading
>46. When checking alphabetically I found the duplicates (AGAIN) - so #43
>seems
>to be a good number now!
>
>Bea
>
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>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 15:09:53 -0800
>From: Bea Hopkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Survey - another Emailer user #44
>
>
>Hi Ellen,
>You'll get 'subscribed' worked out :)) so I've counted you as #44.
>
>Bea
>
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>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 15:10:08 -0800
>From: Bea Hopkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: A "Survey" of a sort #38
>
>
>I have been refining the method as we go - just started to respond by
>giving
>the next number in the list. Your number is #31.
>
>Bea
>
>>I keep reading who has what number but nobody has told me yet what my
>>number is.
>>
>>doug
>
>___________________________________________________________________________
>
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>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 00:19:58 +0100
>From: Marc CASTEELS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: A "Survey" of a sort #41
>
>
>For the record.. I am using Classic and OS X mixed, and I am very happy.
>
>The only situation where I get the behaviour where a file doesn't show op
>in the directory list, is when the directory is on a network, and you
>started Classic prior to connecting to the network volume.
>
>So, whenever I use network volumes (which is all the time), I first het
>the volume icons on the Mac OS X finder desktop, and (only) then I start
>the Classic app such as Emailer.
>
>It works smoothles over here.
>
>Marc
>
>Douglas McAdam wrote on 12-11-2006 20:10 * * * Start of original message
>text * * *
>
>>
>>On Nov 12, 2006, at 11:30 AM, Yersinia wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, really! My Classic Mode is running CE and all but one of my OS 9
>>> apps with total perfection. But since I didn't get rid of OS 9 when I
>>> started using OS X, on the occasions I need that one app to perform the
>>> one function it won't perform properly on Tiger, I just boot in 9 and
>>> all's well. Yeah, this "new" Quicksilver really IS the best of both
>>> worlds! :-D
>>
>>Strange, I am using my granddaughters G4 with OS 10.3.9 which has
>>Classic and CE but she does not want me running CE instead prefers
>>Mail, sigh! However I find I cannot open files in Classic. I find an
>>old file from AppleWorks or Word Perfect, PageMaker etc. and I cannot
>>double click on them to open them and if I go into the app. itself and
>>select Open I don't see the file appear on the HD listing, or Desktop.
>>
>>This is not related to CE but I thought I would ask you how you open
>>such files.
>>
>>regards,
>>doug
>>
>>___________________________________________________________________________
>>To unsubscribe send a mail message with a SUBJECT line of "unsubscribe" to
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> or <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>
>
>___________________________________________________________________________
>
>To unsubscribe send a mail message with a SUBJECT line of "unsubscribe" to
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>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 00:52:50 +0100
>From: Jean-Pierre Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: A "Survey" of a sort #45
>
>
>Réponse suit --- Sheafe EWING a écrit de l'adresse <mailto: "Sheafe
>EWING" [EMAIL PROTECTED]> le 8/11/06 2:52 (GMT+01:00):
>
>>Reply by adding your "number" to the list Subject
>>Example: the previous replier was #32 , your reply is
>>as replier #33. ("A Survey" of a sort #33)
>
>Well, then count me in too. I still use Emailer 2.0v3 and its cousin by
>Chris SMTP Auth Login for out-of town use with my redirection ISP for
>company mail. So far, I still use only Emailer, under OS 10.4, on my
>personal computer (not to be confused with my office PC which never
>leaves the office)
>
>The volume of mail I receive is huge, counting the tremendous traffic I
>receive at home from the redirection I had installed on the Exchange
>server at the office. Emailer still does its job, sometimes duplicating
>some messages in an apparent random fashion, but otherwise still
>outperforming Outlook 2003 by a vast margin (except archives, where
>Outlook is OK)
>
>Sorry for replying late, I don't read the list every day
>
>
>--
>Jean-Pierre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
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>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 18:49:17 -0500
>From: Douglas McAdam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: A "Survey" of a sort #41
>
>
>Thank you so much Yersinia-
>I fooled around according to your instructions and found I could make a
>duplicate copy of a Quark and Apple Document, put them on the Desktop
>and then opened the Apps. and then opened the files. I also double
>clicked on them and that worked too. Can't believe how I can be such a
>dummy.
>warm regards,
>doug
>
>On Nov 12, 2006, at 5:10 PM, Yersinia wrote:
>
>> Doug writes,
>>
>> <Strange, I am using my granddaughters G4 with OS 10.3.9 which has
>> Classic and CE but she does not want me running CE instead prefers
>> Mail, sigh! However I find I cannot open files in Classic. I find an
>> old file from AppleWorks or Word Perfect, PageMaker etc. and I cannot
>> double click on them to open them and if I go into the app. itself and
>> select Open I don't see the file appear on the HD listing, or Desktop.
>>
>> This is not related to CE but I thought I would ask you how you open
>> such files.>
>>
>> <Strange, I am using my granddaughters G4 with OS 10.3.9 which has
>> Classic and CE but she does not want me running CE instead prefers
>> Mail, sigh! However I find I cannot open files in Classic. I find an
>> old file from AppleWorks or Word Perfect, PageMaker etc. and I cannot
>> double click on them to open them and if I go into the app. itself and
>> select Open I don't see the file appear on the HD listing, or Desktop.
>>
>> This is not related to CE but I thought I would ask you how you open
>> such files.>
>>
>> Your problem sounds very bizarre to me. I open my Classic apps and
>> files
>> in OS X the exact same way I opened them under OS 9!!! The only
>> difference with OS X is that there's the Dock, and therefore an "extra"
>> way to open up stuff. But, here's how I open up stuff:
>>
>> I double click on the application's icon, and that opens it. Or, I
>> double
>> click on a particular file (such as a word processing file), which both
>> launches AppleWorks 6 and opens the file. I also open up stuff when
>> booted in OS X from the "Recent Items" menu (in 9, it's "Recent
>> Applications" and "Recent Documents," but close enough). And I
>> "re-activate" running but not-in-use apps by clicking their icons in
>> the
>> Dock.
>>
>> Every app and file I've tried to open, I opened via something in the
>> above description. I don't understand why you shouldn't be able to do
>> that, unless there's some sort of difference between Panther and Tiger
>> maybe? I didn't ever use Panther or earlier, I only just started using
>> OS
>> X a couple of months ago when I got my Quicksilver 867 with a Tiger HD
>> (10.4.7) already in it (I added my own OS 9 HD as soon as I confirmed
>> that the machine worked!). Anyway, the way I have things set up is that
>> the Tiger drive is my "regular" boot drive, and is set in System
>> Preferences to automatically start Classic Mode upon boot. It gets its
>> Classic requirements by using the System Folder in my OS 9 HD. Every so
>> often, when I need to boot in 9, I just do an Option Restart and change
>> the boot drive to the 9 HD so I run purely in 9 for as long as I need
>> to.
>> Because the Tiger drive is my "regular" boot drive, when I'm done in
>> 9, a
>> regular restart gets me back into OS X, where Classic Mode boots up
>> right
>> away.
>>
>> I can and have used CE booted in both drives on this machine, but since
>> I'm usually booted in X, mostly I'm using it there in Classic Mode. (I
>> need to use 9 a bit later, but right now, I'm still on Tiger, and of
>> course this email is being composed and sent via CE!)
>>
>> Mail.app -- I refuse to even touch it! LOL And the stuff I'm hearing
>> about it in here (not as elegant, not as efficient, etc.) and on the
>> G-list (problems with it) are just SO not inspiring to make me even
>> WANT
>> to try it. Yuck!
>>
>> ~Yersinia.
>>
>>
>> ________
>>
>> "Women might be able to fake orgasms. But men can fake whole
>> relationships."
>>
>> _______________________________________________________________________
>> ____
>> To unsubscribe send a mail message with a SUBJECT line of
>> "unsubscribe" to
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> or
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
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>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:25:06 -0500
>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Attachments: pdf
>
>
>In Digest V2006 #112 , the person identified as Bea Hopkinson
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> thoughtfully said:
>
>>As I explained in a previous Email we have a logo to include - the type
>>and color fonts lend themselves to these notices and you can't do any of
>> that in Email :(
>
>A perfect reason for making the attachments in .pdf format, which will
>preserve the graphics and colors. FWIW I've created multi-page things
>with colors, graphics, embedded pictures, etc. in Ready,Set,Go!
>(Page-layout program), let it generate the .pdf file, and emailed that to
>family with no problems on either end.
>
>
>
>
>--
>Selah!
>BWms
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>Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:25:19 -0500
>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re:A "Survey" of a sort #41
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>In emailer-Digest V2006 #113, the person identified as Tyrone Griffin
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> thoughtfully said:
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>>If CE ran natively in OS X, I'd be all over it. But I will admit,
>>having html support is a great thing. I can't run OS 9 because I
>>need a lot of the apps in OS X, and I can't afford to have 2 machines
>>running.
>
>You don't need two machines -- I'm running 10.2.8 and Classic (9.2.2) on
>a QuickSilver G4. While Classic is (almost) always running, it's only for
>a few apps: Word 5.1a (I detest Word X), the old calculator and a D/A
>Calendar, [EMAIL PROTECTED], SmartScrap & The Clipper, SpellsWell, and three
>old
>games. Everything else is OS X.
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>Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:32:09 -0500
>From: Tannis Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: PING to find IP
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>
>Hi Neville and all:
>
>First, I decided to take a look at Network Utility too but when I tried
>clicking on its icon in my Laptop's finder, it just did a little piff
>action and did not open. I tried looking inside the package but found no
>app to open there. So I checked Network Utility on my desktop (both
>running 10.4.8) and it opened into a set of windows which I recognized -
>I would imagine that I have investigated previously and I would guess I
>would have done so on my laptop.
>
>Why would it not open on my laptop and is there a way I can force it to?
>(Dump pref file?)
>
>Oddly enough the "Network Utility.nib" on my laptop is in an open folder
>but on my desktop it is a package.
>
>Secondly, when I did finally ping my ISP's smtp info, domain name or
>server address, I got 100% packet loss. Did I do something wrong?
>
>Thanks for any help and,
>
>It's been great to hear from everyone lately!
>
>Tannis
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>Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:34:06 -0500
>From: Yersinia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: A "Survey" of a sort #41
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>Doug writes,
>
><Thank you so much Yersinia-
>I fooled around according to your instructions and found I could make a
>duplicate copy of a Quark and Apple Document, put them on the Desktop
>and then opened the Apps. and then opened the files. I also double
>clicked on them and that worked too. Can't believe how I can be such a
>dummy.>
>
>You're not a dummy, Doug. Just a Classic die-hard like me, maybe? ;-)
>Sure, OS X is great, but not so great that I'd be willing to GIVE UP
>Classic Mode and OS 9!
>
>Glad I was able to help you. :-)
>
>~Yersinia.
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>Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 17:19:39 -0800
>From: Bea Hopkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: A "Survey" of a sort #38
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>
>I have been refining the method as we go - just started to respond by
>giving
>the next number in the list. Your number is #31.
>
>Bea
>
>>I keep reading who has what number but nobody has told me yet what my
>>number is.
>>
>>doug
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>Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 17:19:47 -0800
>From: Bea Hopkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Survey of a sort #45
>
>
>You arte # 45 Mick. Bea
>
>>If you're counting watchers as well as users, I'll accept whatever
>>number I'm allotted (prime or non).
>>
>>Mick
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>Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 17:19:45 -0800
>From: Bea Hopkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: OS 9 and X
>
>
>Yersinia,
> Do I understand that you use different applications for System 9 and
>X, or
>put another way, that some applications work only in one or the other?
>
>Bea
>
>>Chris writes, <What's wrong with Classic in OS X? Then you get the best
>>of both (or
>>do you do that already)>
>>
>>Yeah, really! My Classic Mode is running CE and all but one of my OS 9
>>apps with total perfection. But since I didn't get rid of OS 9 when I
>>started using OS X, on the occasions I need that one app to perform the
>>one function it won't perform properly on Tiger, I just boot in 9 and
>>all's well. Yeah, this "new" Quicksilver really IS the best of both
>>worlds! :-D
>>
>>~Yersinia.
>>
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>Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 17:59:00 -0800
>From: Bea Hopkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: A "Survey" of a sort #46
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>
>You are actually #46 - Bea
>
>>Well, then count me in too. I still use Emailer 2.0v3 and its cousin by
>>Chris SMTP Auth Login for out-of town use with my redirection ISP for
>>company mail. So far, I still use only Emailer, under OS 10.4, on my
>>personal computer (not to be confused with my office PC which never
>>leaves the office
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>Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 22:26:01 -0500
>From: cb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: PING to find IP
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>
>On Nov 12, 2006, at 7:32 PM, Tannis Baker wrote:
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>> Secondly, when I did finally ping my ISP's smtp info, domain name or
>> server address, I got 100% packet loss. Did I do something wrong?
>
>Possibly did something wrong, or your ISP just has the SMTP server
>set to not respond to pings.
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>-chris
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